1st Generation Specific (1979-1985) 1979-1985 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections

Can a FD Alternator fit In a FB?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 22, 2003 | 09:00 PM
  #1  
silverrotor's Avatar
Thread Starter
Moderator
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 7,592
Likes: 5
From: Toronto, Corporate Canada
Can a FD Alternator fit In a FB?

Also, anyone running this setup?
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2003 | 09:17 PM
  #2  
gamble302's Avatar
roadkill hats rock
Tenured Member: 20 Years
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 1,396
Likes: 0
From: Austin, Texas
well it fits in 2nd gens with some mods, and 2nd gen alts fi in 1st gens with minor mods, so yes i assume it would work fine
never seen it myself though
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2003 | 09:27 PM
  #3  
Conway's Avatar
Full Member
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 97
Likes: 0
From: New Jersey
I believe I read that the FD alternators use a different belt and so you'd need a new pulley, but its been done before.

Conway
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2003 | 10:11 PM
  #4  
silverrotor's Avatar
Thread Starter
Moderator
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 7,592
Likes: 5
From: Toronto, Corporate Canada
They can be mounted on 2nd Gen's. Provided the Pulley Is changed to accomadate the FC. ie. non serpentine pulley.
In fact, I have a FD Alternator, with a double pulley, on my FC. I am now selling them with optional Double Pulley...
Reply
Old Apr 22, 2003 | 10:14 PM
  #5  
silverrotor's Avatar
Thread Starter
Moderator
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 7,592
Likes: 5
From: Toronto, Corporate Canada
It beats 50 amp FB Alternators, respectively.
Reply
Old Apr 23, 2003 | 04:36 AM
  #6  
MIKE-P-28's Avatar
Driven a turbo FB lately?
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 6,444
Likes: 0
From: Fort Branch, Indiana
how many FD's you seen in a junkyard to get an alt?
Reply
Old Apr 23, 2003 | 04:52 AM
  #7  
Gregs's Avatar
Banned. I got OWNED!!!
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 4,980
Likes: 0
From: KING COUNTY, WA
lol good point mike....

ive heard fd alternators are to powerful for fbs and will fry the curcuits or something like that

-greg
Reply
Old Apr 23, 2003 | 05:06 AM
  #8  
SoRRoW's Avatar
MY NEW NAME IS ROTARY 7S
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Jun 2002
Posts: 1,323
Likes: 0
From: Cell Block 4 (LOCKDOWN)
I thought FB were 60 amp..

Then S5 FC were 80 amp?

Whats the raiting on a TII alt?

The alt that is on my FB has a lifetime warrenty so i dont want to take it apart,My 10 AE alt I want to take it apart...polish it and paint the ring that connects to the 2 housings..

Then get one made for this later with more amps..
Reply
Old Apr 23, 2003 | 05:11 AM
  #9  
Gregs's Avatar
Banned. I got OWNED!!!
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 4,980
Likes: 0
From: KING COUNTY, WA
ive got a 13b alternator on my 12a its out of a gsl-se i want to paint the ring in the middle to match my accented engine bay... does it need high-temp paint? or will regular spray can work?

-greg
Reply
Old Apr 23, 2003 | 05:20 AM
  #10  
FB II's Avatar
Banned. I got OWNED!!!
 
Joined: Dec 2002
Posts: 4,192
Likes: 0
From: wishing i was back in FL
high temp paint
Reply
Old Apr 23, 2003 | 05:31 AM
  #11  
Gregs's Avatar
Banned. I got OWNED!!!
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 4,980
Likes: 0
From: KING COUNTY, WA
damn, i was gonna go rip the alternator off and paint it!
hehe oh well new weekend project

-greg
Reply
Old Apr 23, 2003 | 06:03 AM
  #12  
silverrotor's Avatar
Thread Starter
Moderator
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 7,592
Likes: 5
From: Toronto, Corporate Canada
FB- 50 amps
FC- (S4) 60amps
FC- (S5) 80amps
FD-100amps

Upgrading to and Alternator that cranks out more ampheres than stock will not smoke the electrical system...they have Voltage Regulators built Into them to monitor their output, as the name Implies.
Reply
Old Apr 23, 2003 | 08:03 AM
  #13  
MyRxBad's Avatar
EliteHardcoreCanuckSquad
Tenured Member: 25 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 2,654
Likes: 0
From: Toronto
Voltage isn't the same as amperage...
And I'm not sure if the wires or the components in our cars cand can handle the amperage.

each electrical component has certain voltage and amperage tolerances. If anyone knows of the tolerances of all the electrical load in the FB, you can check it against the alternator output. Unless the alternators ouput is strickly going through the battery first and is seperated from the rest of the electrical system.

Maybe someone will buy one off of you and be the genie-pig (sp?)

Last edited by MyRxBad; Apr 23, 2003 at 08:08 AM.
Reply
Old Apr 23, 2003 | 08:17 AM
  #14  
Gregs's Avatar
Banned. I got OWNED!!!
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 4,980
Likes: 0
From: KING COUNTY, WA
"genie-pig (sp?)"

Guinnea i belive its spelled.. hehehe

yeah someone be the lab rat!

-greg
Reply
Old Apr 23, 2003 | 09:02 AM
  #15  
purple82's Avatar
Absolute Power is Awesome
Tenured Member: 20 Years
 
Joined: Mar 2001
Posts: 1,973
Likes: 5
From: Issaquah, WA
Originally posted by MyRxBad
Voltage isn't the same as amperage...
And I'm not sure if the wires or the components in our cars cand can handle the amperage.

each electrical component has certain voltage and amperage tolerances. If anyone knows of the tolerances of all the electrical load in the FB, you can check it against the alternator output. Unless the alternators ouput is strickly going through the battery first and is seperated from the rest of the electrical system.

Maybe someone will buy one off of you and be the genie-pig (sp?)
As long as the alternator is putting out the right voltage the system is fine. Each component draws the current it needs from the alternator.
Reply
Old Apr 23, 2003 | 09:05 AM
  #16  
Pele's Avatar
Right near Malloy
Tenured Member: 25 Years
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (28)
 
Joined: Dec 1999
Posts: 7,855
Likes: 517
From: Behind a workbench, repairing FC Electronics.
If you're going to get a higher rated alternator, I'd reccomend getting the fusible link box from another car. Perhpas an FC or newer 323, 626, or 929... Or something... Then use branches off that to power what you need the higher alternator for, IE foglights,stereo, etc... Also run an extra thick wire from the Alternator output to the + battery terminal. Put a fuse in that wire rated at the alternator's output.

Originally posted by MIKE-P-28
how many FD's you seen in a junkyard to get an alt?
www.mazdarecycling.com

Or just get a rebuilt one, throw your FB or FC alt in the box for the core and wait till some dumbass is working at the store to return it.
Reply
Old Apr 23, 2003 | 04:41 PM
  #17  
silverrotor's Avatar
Thread Starter
Moderator
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 7,592
Likes: 5
From: Toronto, Corporate Canada
Should the upgrading of an Alternator exceed the electrical load In the FB, you'd burn out fuses before the wiring and associated.
Reply
Old Apr 23, 2003 | 08:55 PM
  #18  
mar3's Avatar
Administrator
Tenured Member: 25 Years
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Nov 1998
Posts: 12,974
Likes: 62
From: So. Arlington, TX!!!
The TII alternator at 80 amps presents no problem whatsoever for the old stock wiring in a 1980 chassis with the simple addition of an 10 gauge or better cable going directly to the battery. I can't imagine a 20 ampere-extra feed ability if regulated at 13.8 volts would cause any problem. None at all...nope...

And there never ever was a problem with alternator or battery with the direct connection, so don't bring it up...
Reply
Old Apr 23, 2003 | 09:30 PM
  #19  
silverrotor's Avatar
Thread Starter
Moderator
Tenured Member: 20 Years
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 7,592
Likes: 5
From: Toronto, Corporate Canada
Again, I'm selling FD Alternators, Necessary Harness Plug with optional Double Pully. Check It In the 2nd Gen Parts Forum. Cheers...
Reply
Old Apr 24, 2003 | 02:04 PM
  #20  
Jeff20B's Avatar
Lapping = Fapping
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 15,725
Likes: 91
From: Near Seattle
I know the old rotaries had 50 amp lead strip type fuses. A newer internal reg alt rated at 50amps works perfectly. You've just got to get a T shaped connector and splice it in and loop or mod the wires that used to connect to the old voltage reg (metal box). I've got like four of the later style alts around here (three with large housings and one smaller non-external-fan style).
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
BLK 93
3rd Generation Specific (1993-2002)
11
Sep 9, 2015 10:56 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:10 AM.