i went today to pick up some 2nd gen ignitors from a fellow rotary guy but you ever talk with someone and you just doubt the knowledge they have about what theyre talkin about well anyways he says that when he is in japan he is bringing back a 26b a 4 rotor motor 2 put in his 2nd gen. is this true and do they come stock producing 450horsies????? i have heard of the 20b but never of a 26b.

 

26B was used in the 787 and 787B cars.

 

If he can really find them than he must have some crazy cool hookup over there. At least thats my understanding.

 

I feel that it would be utter BS. If you have that kind of money why put it into a FC?

 

i wanna do the 3-rotor DeLorian conversion that i saw online once. That thing was SWEET. They only wanted 30,000 for it, too, full custom engine mounts, porsche transmission, everything...

 

Yeah, I'd seen that vid of that car. Was pretty bas ***.

About that guy though, I'm willing to bet he's full of ****. As far as I know the 26b was made only for the Le Mans, not for production.

 

Its not really a 26B that you can get, at least not by definition. Basically its two 12A's with a custom eccentric shaft to keep the whole thing balanced. There are a couple of companies that make them over there, and you find a four rotor car running the Wangan every now and then. Mazda does not sanction any of these companies, and its a risk to buy them because Mazda never released engineering data from their four rotor program to the public. Basically you run the risk of getting a shoddy designed motor that will vibrate apart.
As for the real 26B, it exsisted for not only the 787B and 792P, but in the IMSA GTP class Mazda ran several prototypes with the 26B.

 

 

 

listen to comradegiant. he speaks the truth. perhaps you should ask him where it is coming from and who built it.

 

BTW, the prototype cars a few years back that Kudzu built and ran were all Mazda 26Bs too. they still make them....

 

yeah i still doubt it cuz his "baby" his 7 has weeds around it and he never drives it also he has never heared of DLIDFIS he says that the pros dont use direct fire???? his 7 is a 2nd gen that has sidedraft carbs, when i first met him he said it was 500 hp turbo and when i went to his house weeds were growing up over his car i know if i ever had a 500 hp turbo 7 id be damned to let weeds grow over it. i think what he has read is true but what he will do is BS.

 

Just ask ygo20b why he spent so much on his fc? That car is bad *** and you know he put a small fortune into that thing.

 

I for one would be upset to have a slick 20B fall into a poo-*** deLorean under my nose, it should fall between the rails of a SA 7 instead - a much better car - use a porsche tranny in that too if ya have to. I've seen a track car here in NZ that had a (much more bad-*** than deLorean) 20B midmounted. A nice mega track weapon, bring it on DMC hybrids, Mazda gear is ready to stut its stuff!

The stainless body on the deLorean is quite cool, but no - looks: ugly, basic stock performance: rubbish.

 

Since I have no clue how to post a pic, I am going to post a link instead. Here is what I was talking about, http://www.fc3s.org/trips/sevenstock...s/dcp01553.jpg.
That pic was taken at Seven Stock 5. As you can see, its basically two 12As with a common eccentric shaft. I've seen it done with 13Bs too, but its more common with the 12A because racers love the four port and four port 13Bs aren't quite as common.

 

2nd gen ignitors huh when did this start. i thought only only first gens and below

 

To come back to the BS thingy .. 26Bs of course existed, mainly in the lemans ( I'd have to check my files, but I had a video of them reving it up f*cking high mouhahaha sounded MEAN !! ) NE ways here's a good pic of it http://www.scuderiaciriani.com/rx7/787B/26b_large.jpg . The chances of your friend actually 1) getting his hands on one ... 2) Going to Japan to get it ... 3) Wanting to put it in his beat up 7 .. COMMON ! I don't even know him, he's probably days away from here and I can smell the BS from here ! lol

oh and just for the record , it was 700 hp at 9000 RPM with 448 ftlb@ 6500 RPM that mazda had in there's ! They competed in the LeMans in 1991, and were banned in 92 :P If I rememeber correctly , they were running in the 2.0-3.0L classes ( it is afterall a ~2.6 L ) but .. well ... a rotary IS a rotary :PpPpP

here's the movies ..
http://www.doubledracing.com/787/images/787rev1.mov
http://www.doubledracing.com/787/images/787rev2.mov

Just trying to clear things up !

 

i think its bull **** y would mazda sell a top secret engine like the 26b.

 

i cant get the vids to play anyone else or just me?

 

Hey all,
I heard once that mazda will actually sell you the 26B - You'd want to know the Mazda CEO in japan though - but you don't get the induction, electronics and other things. They will only give you the engine internals and then your on your own for tuning, settings and building the engine. They only give you the essential parts. But like I said I "heard" this from a reputible friend. Would be nice to just go and get a 26B for my seven

 

This is true, Mazda will sell you a 26B. But they give you a thourough grilling as to what you want it for, and generally don't sell it to private individuals. My friend and I have researched 26Bs a lot, we have plans to race a stripped first or second gen with a four rotor, and we determined that Mazda was not the best way to get one. A shame really, since theirs are the best as far as engineering and reliability go.

 

i think it's probably BS, although it could b true, there are more than a handful of 4 rotors around. U might just be lucky enough to no someone with one shortly, you never know!

 

To defend deloreans I have to say they are damn nice cars for preformance, they got nothing for HP stock though. But with the frame of a Lotus Esprit and only weighing in at 2600lbs dry they are not bad. I will also say with a little boost they are very fast too.

 

this is proably the only 700HP engine that will get 20MPG city

 

I used to work at Downing/Atlanta and one day I was over looking at the kudzu (while Rick Engman was tuning the MoTec) I asked him to build me a 26b for my first gen....He said sure....$150,000!!!....After that, I didnt even want to look at it anymore!!