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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 04:54 PM
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Broke A Bolt!! Oh No

I was getting rweady to pull my engine and i broke the head off of one of my engine/transmission bolts. And the stud is stuck isnide of it. it's the lower passengewr side one. What should I frweaking do?
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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 05:11 PM
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If the head broke off clean, and you can seperate the engine and tranny, wait until the engine is out, then fuss with it. Once you can access it, try heat, penetrant and a stud remover. If that fails, drill and retap.
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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 05:28 PM
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do what trochoid said by removing the engine and trans then double nut it out as shown in pic...
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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 06:23 PM
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If that don't work weld a nut on the bolt stud and wrench it out.
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Old Jun 18, 2006 | 07:28 PM
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hit it with a hammer and cuss it out, works every time. i have nothing to add that they didnt already say
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 12:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Paradox
do what trochoid said by removing the engine and trans then double nut it out as shown in pic...
I have to add another known definition for the term "double nutting" now. Actually that is so brilliantly simple, definitely a bit of knowledge to file away for later use...
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 01:18 AM
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yah im with the weld it idea thats a good way if the duble nut doesnt work.
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 01:59 AM
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Good suggestions. This reminds me, however, of the time when issues like this were problems of MONUMENTAL proportions to me -- back when I was new to cars -- as opposed to mere inconveniences. Earlier today, I found an oil pan bolt hole stripped out, so I grabbed a drill, tap and Helicoil and fixed it without once reflecting that it was anything out of the ordinary. Of course, it's not...unless you don't know what a Helicoil is!

My old favorite saying was "experience is what you get when you didn't get what you wanted" but I think I like Rob Golden's oft-repeated riddle best: "What's the difference between a Journeyman and an Apprentice?....The Journeyman knows how to fix his own F-ups." Oh so true.

It might be a good idea to archive some basic butt-saving techniques as well as just good practices. Drilling & tapping holes, Helicoiling, extracting broken fasteners by all sorts of methods (left-handed drill bits, extractors, double-nut, Vice-Grips, slot cutting, welding), use of Loctite, silicone sealant, both proper and improper applications for epoxy, proper torquing, use of antiseize and dielectric grease, finding shorts, testing sensors, and so forth. Just a thought.
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 03:24 AM
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Right on man. We need a "common sense" section for the FAQ...
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Old Jun 19, 2006 | 12:07 PM
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i still freak out for a couple of seconds after i do something like that, i guess its just the newbie working its way out of me lol
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Old Jun 25, 2006 | 03:54 PM
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I tried to double nut it and the nuts just spin freely and it doesn’t loosen it. I tried to use vice grips and twist the studs out, but it couldn’t grip the studs.
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Old Jun 25, 2006 | 05:31 PM
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When double nutting, not the kinky bedroom stuff, add a lock washer between them. The star type ones work best. Tighten them as tight as you can get them to each other, then wrench from the bottom one.

If you have the nuts laying around that have the flange on the bottom, they work better than a standard nut.
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