saxyman990

In an effort to answer the original poster's question:

Changing your pads, rotor, and lines will not significantly reduce your 60-0 distance. Stopping is a mostly a function of tires and weight. In other words, better brakes are good, but if you are using the same tires, they will still break traction at the same point, and it will result in about the same stopping distance.

However, what it WILL do is result in better consistancy. You can continually heat cycle the brakes, and they will continue to operate and stop in the same distance they did before. Whereas the stockers will eventually start to fade (which results in very difficult stopping). So in other words, upgrading brakes is by no means a bad idea. It'll give you much better consistancy and feel to your stopping ability.

Hope that helps,
Rob

mar3

iTrader: (8)

Which begs the question of why Brembo makes drilled rotors for the street...

OK, below is the real world results of a 3200 lb '67 Camaro that had already been treated to Global West Suspension upgrades and 17" forged rollers. It had factory drums which were ditched for aftermarket Baer binders, front first and then they came back for the rears later which is where this comes from...



Next, is a Miata for weight comparison's sake...

"These are powerful brakes, firm and reassuring, with stops from 70 mph in 168 feet, bettering the last test Miata by 13 feet."
--Car and Driver, Feb 2001

Hmmmmm......

saxyman990

Okay, here we go. This is page 7-1 from my 85 RX-7 Owners manual. It clearly shows the stopping distance for a normally operating GSL-SE is somewhere between 145 and 150ft, depending on loading conditions.

mar3

iTrader: (8)

Article, not owner's manual which is best wishes scenario, not real world....or are we to believe that the owners of the first RX-8s really do have 247 HP as their OWNER'S manuals clearly tells them? Do you see the fallacy of believing the owner's manual now?

Article, please...

You, too, schwarzer ritter....

saxyman990

Page 7-2 showing non-SE cars. Stopping distance is 160ft.

mar3

iTrader: (8)

I refer the Gentleman to the reply previously given...

saxyman990

Motor Trend, June 1984. Stopping distance of 144ft from 60mph. GSL-SE

saxyman990

DP. Forum is really slow today...

saxyman990

There is no more fallacy in the owners manual than there is in magazine testing. Owners manuals are required by law to give the most accurate test data pertaining to the car. There is no standard set for any of the magazines. Pertaining to the RX-8 comment: That was a misprint, and it was corrected by Mazda. They even offered a buy-back for people who were not happy with the car due to that.

Again, I advise you sir, to do some research to increase your knowledge base on certain subjects before spreading misinformation.

mar3

iTrader: (8)

So now, we have to figure out who's telling the truth...Motor Trend or Car and Driver...

I know what I read...I used to get all the car mags, but dropped Automobile, Hot Rod, Motor Trend, and EuroCar because they were less than legit and more driven by who pays the bills. Automobile wasn't really like that, but it was too elitist for me to stomache. I've never dropped C&D or CarCraft for these same reasons. The stuff they do works in the real world and they are hardly discredited. I'm going with Car & Driver, thanks anyway....

saxyman990

NO, we don't. Both of these numbers are accurate. Once again, LOOK at the figures. The Motor Trend figures that were quoted were from 60-0, whereas the Car and Driver figures were from 70-0. ****, I even have a few magazines that give the 80-0 distance.

60-0 is the normal comparison used for braking. Pay attention to the methods and test conditions, not just the results....

schwarzer ritter

see i told you it was like 155ft thank you saxyman990 for putting the article on there i was just going to when i found out you already did

saxyman990

Not a problem. Hopefully, I helped answer your questions regarding this.

Rob