Ok I need to make a desicion. I want some input on this. Drop a t2 engine in the mazda do all the work. Or get a crotch rocket and work on the mazda later. I need some type of transportation. I got dads car right now but he needs it back. Someone please give me some input on this.

 

Hey YapaKanichi

Get a very cheap, very slow motor bike (waste no money on this) and work slowly and carefully towards the TII swap, definitely not something to hurry on.

and for gods sake be careful!, I took that same route a few years ago, and got run over like 3 times in one year, couldn't work on my car cause I kept looseing jobs due to injuries from getting run over! I finally shitcanned the crotchrocket, and worked on the 7 straight till I got it finished. but talk about wasted time....

 

Normally, I would say fix the 7, but since you dad needs his car back and you have no other source of transportation, I say go for the bike.

What would maybe be even better is getting some kind of older econobox (Honda, Toyota, or something). I know that you probably don't like them, but they can be cheap and reliable (more money to put towards the 7). Also, after driving these cars for awhile, you will miss the 7 so much and that will give you extra motivation to get the 7 done.

You don't want to rush the T2 swap trying to get it done so that you can give your dad's car back. You are more likely to make mistakes and reuse things that you should replace just because you didn't have enough time. Just get something to get you around and take your time with the T2 project. If you could find a direct drop in (13b 4 port) local and cheap, I would also consider that route. But, if you want a T2 in there, I think you are better off waiting.

Kent

 

well I'm searching for 4-port right now in this town but my issue is it's not gonna be ported and the carb is setup for a port job so whats gonna happen with that?

 

This is the problem when the engine goes out on a daily driver. You want to get it fixed, but often you don't have the time, money, or parts to do it right away. It would be great if you could find a good 4 port locally, but many times you have to look around a bit to make sure that you are getting a good engine at a good price and unfortunately you are under pressure to make a decision and get it done.

You could look into getting a T2 engine and running it as NA for now. I have seen some others do this maybe search the forum a bit and see if you can find further info (like if S5 or S4 fits better). This would greatly enhance the chances of finding an engine and you could easily go turbo later (when you have more money/time). It is something to consider. Maybe you could find a good TII short block and worry about getting the turbo and manifold later.

So either this route, the older Honda, etc., or an old sport bike like kenn mentioned would be the way to go. I would just hate to see you make a mistake getting/doing something that you don't really want just because you feel pressured to do so.

As for the carb, you would probably have to re-tune it no matter what. Even if you get another streetport 4 port 13b, there are differences between sizes and shapes of the ports between different builders. I don't know what all you would need to change as I don't have much experience with carbs. Maybe Carl or someone could help you further in this aspect.

Kent

 

Yea I might just get a bike pay low payments on it and save up for the t2 swap

 

Since I own both,let me give you this advise...you can spend a lot more on the TII swap than a sportbike,depending on your expectations and will power.
Early-mid 90s sportbikes are getting really cheap now and are still pretty potent,although not on the same level as modern superbikes.My '92 FZR1000 is a beast,but I only paid $3000 for it in pristine condition.Im having trouble selling my fully custom '91 FZR600 for anything more than $2300.
Youll also want to consider insurance costs for a sportbike if your a novice.A TII 1st gen will have the same insurance costs as a stock 1st gen,but if you have less than 5 years riding experience,even a 600cc sportbike can be very expensive,especially if you finance it.
True, you could do a TII swap for less than most older sportbikes,but a good,complete TII swap will usually nickle and dime you over 1500-2000 with all the seals,gaskets,hoses,injectors and little stuff that should be adressed on a used engine.And youll still be tempted to get that downpipe,boost controller,FMIC,ect........

 

Well, if you have the money for a TII swap, I suggest you call Nick at Rotary Reliability and Racing. That is where I got my street ported 13B 4 port from, and it has racked up over 120,000 miles over the course of roughly ten years. Still not a single problem to this day; even after years of SCCA Solo II autocrossing and daily "spirited driving" sessions.

The motor shipped to the house, IIRC, was roughly $4K and is rated at 215 flywheel horsepower. I mean, you already have all the stuff (exhaust, carb, etc); their prices have gone up a little, however.

Of course, you could do the TII swap for a few extra thousand and probably be faster, but if you are a little tighter on cash, I definately think another SP 4 port is the way to go for you.

As for the motorcycle: I cannot see that as a daily driver while your car is busted. I mean, what if it rains consistantly? Are you going to continually ride to work in the rain? Are you going to take the chance if being hit by some driver going too fast in the rain? What about fog? I think bikes are good for sunny Sunday cruising and track days; not for day to day commuting.

Here is the link to Rotary Reliability and Racing in So. Cal. http://www.rotaryracing.com/ff_Turn_key.htm

 

I am talking getting a bike that is nothing special, a old magma, or shadow with some miles on it, for a 1000 or less. drive it to and from work, and save all of your excess cash for the 7. didn't say a thing about a sporty bike, I said a cheaper older bike to get you to and from work.

I wouldn't waste the money on anything else. Use it as your dailey, Rains, get a rain jacket, and wear a full face, drive slow. snow= same thing but get some warm gloves. this is strictly a beater to go to and from work. I didn't mention toyotas, or nissans as I am highly allergic to both of these forms of transportation, and i wouldn't even suggest a honda!

 

Get a suzuki swift like me

 

Forget cars or bikes...get a pickup truck, like a mid-80s or -90s Toyota. You won't need to work on it, you won't be tempted to mod it and you can actually haul car parts around. I did the econobox thing for a few years and hated it. Yes, it got great mileage and was reliable, but it sucked for moving car parts and was just a bit too convenient so that I didn't feel the urgency of completing the car projects. A purely utilitarian truck will serve you well but also make you long for driving a sports car. Every time I get out of my F250 (okay, I 'supersized' my utilitarian vehicle!) and climb into my RX-7, it feels like I hopped into an F16 Falcon fighter aircraft.

 

Well guys I'm gonna go ahead and get a bike, the people that live with me can give a ride to work if needed. I don't know if I'm gonna buy a new bike or not. I've been looking at the Suzuki GSXR600 and apparently it seems pretty good right now. I'm gonna be keeping this bike for awhile now. Now not all of you can say you drive your seven as a daily driver. I'm gonna get the bike for right now, save some cash back get a stock 4-prt and drop that in and drive that when it rains or I need to go to the store.
There is no way in hell I would ever get a truck. I don't like them and will never drive them. Sorry for all you truck I wanna haul my engine in the back type of guys out there, that's not me. I'm pleased with the car sitting and me getting a bike. Now what kind of bike most like the gsxr600. I was told it was a fun bike to ride and is a really good bike. I'm also gonna go look at hondas as well. I was gonna think of an R1 but then I was told it's not good for beginners. I'm the type of person that takes his time at things. I'm not gonna be getting on it when I first get on the bike or anything like that. I take my time get used to a new situation then maybe start doing things.

 

The Gixxer 600 is a great bike. I wouldn't even consider the almighty R1. Start off with a 600. Get your skills up and then.......

 

I own two bikes now and have owned a few in the past and the thing with only havnig a bike is that if you need to take someone or some actual luggage it makes it hard. Also the rain has hit us hard in sunny california so even I haven't been riding that much!

There isn't a helmet law in florida huh?

 

ok well I've been really thinking about this a lot. There's a lot of stuff going on in my life right now and I don't know if I can keep the mazda. I need the cash and I need a ride. I want a bike and right now I'm thinking of selling the mazda to get my life back straight again. The only thing it needs is an engine. It's practically completely tricked out.

How much do you guys think I could get for it. Check the mods.

 

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buy a cheap beater car like the above. The cost of proper riding gear to deal with the rain and such you'll get all summer means a bike isn't all that cheap to operate. Use the beater car to get around while saving money to do what you like with your RX7

I say that having 4 motorcycles in the garage right now and having walked away from crashes thanks to proper saftey gear. Oh and riding in FL doesn't seem like a great deal of fun to me. I like going to Jennings for track days though.

 

I started with a bike, it's not bad in nasty weather but it is a pain to carry anything on. I would not recommend anything larger than a 600 though. Depending on how tall you are you will find the GSXR600 very cramped. I'm relatively tall 5'11" and it's tiny! Also I actually saved money by driving my RX-7 due to the fact that local cops seem less willing to give tickets to something with 4 wheels.
If I lived in FL and didn't have to ever deal with a "real" winter I would definately get a bike as a daily driver. However I wouldn't recommend anything newer that a '95 for a first bike. You have a 95% chance of dropping it, new bike plastics are rediculously expensive. My '83 still feels way to fast when I get on it after a long absense.
Grant

 

I'm 5'4 or 5'6 somewhere in there

 

Bike + Florida = imminent crash/ sooner rather than later.

Get a beater honda!!

 

That doesn't seem like much of a exaguration. I was rather scared in traffic around Miami in a 4500lb land barge. Seems a tiny bit better in WPB, but not much.

 

I live in Lakeland guys. This is not a big city. lol. BTW the honda I "had" and now I "have" again blew it's engine the dumb person who thought they could buy it off me blew the engine by letting it overheat. Stupid Humans.