AWD 1st gen
Originally posted by FBDrifter
3000GT is a heavy turd, eclipse or talon would make more sense.
3000GT is a heavy turd, eclipse or talon would make more sense.
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I have a super duper simple way to make an AWD 1st-gen.
Step One: Get a 1st gen. Preferably one with a floor consisting mostly of iron oxide.
Step 2: Flip the car over and get a melon baller (one of those industrial melon ballers) and scoop out the floor and drivetrain.
Step 3. Acquire a Merkur XR4Ti and scrape the body off of the floorpan and suspension.
Step 4. Get out the MIG welder...
Step 5. Call a good friend in the UK and have him or her ship you over a Sierra/Escort(*) Cosworth transmission, front subframe, and front diff. Then bolt those in.
Step 6. Drive your piston powered, AWD RX-7.
* - UK Escorts were FWD. Cosworth Escorts were Escort upper shells mounted on Sierra Cosworth floorpans. The Sierra is what we in the US know as the XR4Ti (although they didn't get the uber-tough 2.3 Turbo) and the Cosworth 4WD bits are a literal bolt-in. Neat, huh?
Step One: Get a 1st gen. Preferably one with a floor consisting mostly of iron oxide.
Step 2: Flip the car over and get a melon baller (one of those industrial melon ballers) and scoop out the floor and drivetrain.
Step 3. Acquire a Merkur XR4Ti and scrape the body off of the floorpan and suspension.
Step 4. Get out the MIG welder...
Step 5. Call a good friend in the UK and have him or her ship you over a Sierra/Escort(*) Cosworth transmission, front subframe, and front diff. Then bolt those in.
Step 6. Drive your piston powered, AWD RX-7.
* - UK Escorts were FWD. Cosworth Escorts were Escort upper shells mounted on Sierra Cosworth floorpans. The Sierra is what we in the US know as the XR4Ti (although they didn't get the uber-tough 2.3 Turbo) and the Cosworth 4WD bits are a literal bolt-in. Neat, huh?
Originally posted by 82streetracer
its been done
for a rally car
but even then, you can rally a normal 1st gen
its been done
for a rally car
but even then, you can rally a normal 1st gen
Thats all I remember...
Rod Millens 4WD first gen wasn't exactly close to stock...
As far as I know the engine is moved out of the middle to make place for the front diff. There are several "Rod Millen's" build, and according to different sources, it was either full custom setup, or it used parts from the old 626 FWD. I can't tell you for sure, as I'm only saying what I've read myself, and as said: not all stories about this car(s) seem to agree on how it was done.
One of the cars is in Belgium though, check this:
http://users.pandora.be/Rotary.Restorations.JRE/
and click for "rotary collection"
As far as I know the engine is moved out of the middle to make place for the front diff. There are several "Rod Millen's" build, and according to different sources, it was either full custom setup, or it used parts from the old 626 FWD. I can't tell you for sure, as I'm only saying what I've read myself, and as said: not all stories about this car(s) seem to agree on how it was done.
One of the cars is in Belgium though, check this:
http://users.pandora.be/Rotary.Restorations.JRE/
and click for "rotary collection"
Originally posted by peejay
I have a super duper simple way to make an AWD 1st-gen.
Step One: Get a 1st gen. Preferably one with a floor consisting mostly of iron oxide.
Step 2: Flip the car over and get a melon baller (one of those industrial melon ballers) and scoop out the floor and drivetrain.
Step 3. Acquire a Merkur XR4Ti and scrape the body off of the floorpan and suspension.
Step 4. Get out the MIG welder...
Step 5. Call a good friend in the UK and have him or her ship you over a Sierra/Escort(*) Cosworth transmission, front subframe, and front diff. Then bolt those in.
Step 6. Drive your piston powered, AWD RX-7.
* - UK Escorts were FWD. Cosworth Escorts were Escort upper shells mounted on Sierra Cosworth floorpans. The Sierra is what we in the US know as the XR4Ti (although they didn't get the uber-tough 2.3 Turbo) and the Cosworth 4WD bits are a literal bolt-in. Neat, huh?
I have a super duper simple way to make an AWD 1st-gen.
Step One: Get a 1st gen. Preferably one with a floor consisting mostly of iron oxide.
Step 2: Flip the car over and get a melon baller (one of those industrial melon ballers) and scoop out the floor and drivetrain.
Step 3. Acquire a Merkur XR4Ti and scrape the body off of the floorpan and suspension.
Step 4. Get out the MIG welder...
Step 5. Call a good friend in the UK and have him or her ship you over a Sierra/Escort(*) Cosworth transmission, front subframe, and front diff. Then bolt those in.
Step 6. Drive your piston powered, AWD RX-7.
* - UK Escorts were FWD. Cosworth Escorts were Escort upper shells mounted on Sierra Cosworth floorpans. The Sierra is what we in the US know as the XR4Ti (although they didn't get the uber-tough 2.3 Turbo) and the Cosworth 4WD bits are a literal bolt-in. Neat, huh?
Or you could just BUY a merkur XR4ti...I owned one, they're fun as ****. I'd so own another one.
I would one one in a heatbeat, too.
FWIW, and I forgot to add this in my first post... AWD may inherently understeer, yes. However, because of the way AWD lets you control the car, you can set the *suspension* up (remember the suspension?) to oversteer, and then you can power your way out no problem.
Having a good front weight bias helps also, so the car wants to yaw around the front axle instead of the middle of the car.
Having owned an AWD car that had absolutely no problem oversteering, I have to call you out on that generality.
FWIW, and I forgot to add this in my first post... AWD may inherently understeer, yes. However, because of the way AWD lets you control the car, you can set the *suspension* up (remember the suspension?) to oversteer, and then you can power your way out no problem.
Having a good front weight bias helps also, so the car wants to yaw around the front axle instead of the middle of the car.
Having owned an AWD car that had absolutely no problem oversteering, I have to call you out on that generality.
Originally posted by peejay
Having owned an AWD car that had absolutely no problem oversteering, I have to call you out on that generality.
Having owned an AWD car that had absolutely no problem oversteering, I have to call you out on that generality.
Add some toe out and it'll oversteer on a dime.
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