1st Generation Specific (1979-1985) 1979-1985 Discussion including performance modifications and technical support sections

Auto tranny in se?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jan 1, 2008 | 05:59 PM
  #1  
jeezy25's Avatar
Thread Starter
Full Member
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 102
Likes: 0
From: Pennsylvania
Auto tranny in se?

I need a tranny for my 84se. Will the auto tranny from my 85gsl work. I should really be asking what do i need to make it work. any help is appreciated.
Reply
Old Jan 1, 2008 | 06:06 PM
  #2  
Midwest 7's's Avatar
sellout
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 3,078
Likes: 0
From: Lawrence KS
yea an auto tranny will work... if your a woman.
Reply
Old Jan 1, 2008 | 06:08 PM
  #3  
steve84GS TII's Avatar
FB+FC=F-ME
Tenured Member 05 Years
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 3,353
Likes: 5
From: Rohnert Park CA
It will bolt up and work,but you might lose some functions like TC lockup since the later model autos are electronic controlled and the SE doesnt have an AT control unit in it........An auto GSL-SE would be original,but not entirely desirable.
Reply
Old Jan 1, 2008 | 06:46 PM
  #4  
Vashner's Avatar
Rotary Enthusiast
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,079
Likes: 0
From: Texas
Don't downgrade it to automatic.. ewww.
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2008 | 05:35 PM
  #5  
jeezy25's Avatar
Thread Starter
Full Member
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 102
Likes: 0
From: Pennsylvania
ya so im gonna do it anyway, thought you guys would be helpful but i guess not(thanx steve84gs). I guess ill figure it out thanx anyway
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2008 | 05:49 PM
  #6  
bad 83's Avatar
PSHH! PSHH! HEAR ME NOW?
Tenured Member 05 Years
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 4,132
Likes: 4
From: Statesville NC
It can be done, but I think you will have to use the flywheel and counter weight from the automatic car. I guess what some of these guys are not so politely trying to ask is, why would want to put an automatic in a manual car? Is there a reason why you would want to go through that mutch trouble?
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2008 | 06:05 PM
  #7  
Midwest 7's's Avatar
sellout
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 3,078
Likes: 0
From: Lawrence KS
Originally Posted by bad 83
why would want to put an automatic in a manual car? Is there a reason why you would want to go through that mutch trouble?
especially when you can get a 5 speed for $50-$150 used.
im sure there are a lot of forum guys in your area that would be happy to help you out.
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2008 | 06:21 PM
  #8  
Box_Man's Avatar
I hate drum brakes
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 638
Likes: 0
From: West Palm Beach, Florida
I know a guy who did it to a GSL with a 4 port 13B, so his girlfriend could drive it. I remember him saying he had to modify the mounting point for the trans mount on the chassis.
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2008 | 07:47 PM
  #9  
Vashner's Avatar
Rotary Enthusiast
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,079
Likes: 0
From: Texas
Originally Posted by jeezy25
ya so im gonna do it anyway, thought you guys would be helpful but i guess not(thanx steve84gs). I guess ill figure it out thanx anyway
It's an opinion forum. What you got was honest opinions. Do you have a physical disablity that is better served or required? I could understand that.

I don't see that as not being helpful. As no one said it can't be done and or saying about the ECU would be redundant as in early said responses and existings threads on said subject.

And as far as a downgrade. Yes the value of the vehicle will be lower with automatic. Look at FB FC FD prices with auto.. Sort by price down and just save some time and scroll to the bottom. You'll find the auto 7's there.
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2008 | 07:55 PM
  #10  
KansasCityREPU's Avatar
Out In the Barn
Tenured Member: 20 Years
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 6,704
Likes: 1,250
From: KC
If you need any part let me know. I have a 1985 GSL Auto that I'm converting to 5 speed. I have all the stuff required to change it to an auto. I'm sure we could work out a deal. PM if your interested.
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2008 | 07:59 PM
  #11  
'85GSL-SE's Avatar
I swear I didn't know.
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 580
Likes: 0
From: Vic's Mom's House
Originally Posted by Vashner
just save some time and scroll to the bottom.
This is so true.


No but seriously you will be better off buying a GSL with Automatic.
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2008 | 08:00 PM
  #12  
gsl-se addict's Avatar
Super Moderator
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 5,088
Likes: 11
From: Lynchburg, VA
Not worth it IMO. It is more work than you probably think. For starters:

- need flexplate, counterweight for an early (pre-'86) 13B. Since the SE didn't come auto, you'll need to look at pre-rx7 cars for the counterweight.
- auto starter
- swap pedal assembly to auto
- probably need a different drive shaft
- your rad may/may not be setup for auto tranny cooler
- you don't have the AT related controls

Maybe more. Lot of work to get something that will generally be less desirable. Why not just drop in another 5-speed?
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2008 | 08:05 PM
  #13  
trochoid's Avatar
Old Fart Young at Heart
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Apr 2004
Posts: 15,145
Likes: 8
From: St Joe MO
Originally Posted by Vashner
It's an opinion forum.
Sorry, you are misinformed. This is a techical forum, not an opinion forum. When someone asks for tech help, that's what should be given. If they ask for an opinion, then that's what should be given. Want to give your opinion, do so in the non-tech forum, that's one of it's purposes.
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2008 | 08:11 PM
  #14  
Midwest 7's's Avatar
sellout
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Jan 2005
Posts: 3,078
Likes: 0
From: Lawrence KS
in addition to the auto parts car that you already have, you will need an pre 79 13B flex plate, torque converter, and counterweight and i bet you'd be set.
Reply
Old Jan 2, 2008 | 09:06 PM
  #15  
jeezy25's Avatar
Thread Starter
Full Member
 
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 102
Likes: 0
From: Pennsylvania
thank you gsl-se addict and trochoid. thats all i really wanted. advice not an opinion. gsl-se addict youve answered my question perfectly. i really appreciate your advice and not bashing me for it. Im only doin this swap b/c i already have nearly eveything i need to do the swap, just needed to be sure i knew what i was getting into.... This is so my g/f can drive the beast also. ive got a few so i can afford to fudge at least one fb up.
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2008 | 06:13 AM
  #16  
'85GSL-SE's Avatar
I swear I didn't know.
Tenured Member 10 Years
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 580
Likes: 0
From: Vic's Mom's House
Good luck with the swap if you go threw with it. Let us know how it performs after the transformation. If or when you do it. I might suggest to you a shift kit for the transmission. It will make more power usable and make the shifts more firm. It would feel more sporty while giving a hell of a ride at the same time. I had one in my old '85 12A GSL with Auto. I could dog manuals in it all the time.

Good Luck!
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2008 | 06:24 AM
  #17  
petex's Avatar
Senior Member
Tenured Member: 20 Years
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 329
Likes: 0
From: San Francisco, CA
maybe you should teach your girlfriend how to drive a car with manual transmission. it can be done.
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2008 | 08:45 AM
  #18  
Crit's Avatar
No distributor? No thanks
Tenured Member 15 Years
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 3,438
Likes: 6
From: Outskirts of Road Atlanta
Well, the GSL-SE got a lot of unique wiring, and I wonder if the controller for the auto will be easily incorporated. I can't tell you if the controller for an auto is standalone or not, and if the auto harness can just be moved from an auto car along with the tranny, but it's a question worth asking.

Even if the guys here don't agree with your choice, it's certainly worth documenting if you do it, as you'll likely learn a good bit that we haven't been through.
Reply
Old Jan 3, 2008 | 09:20 AM
  #19  
mikewoodkozar's Avatar
Brap, Brap, Ole!
Tenured Member 10 Years
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 1,461
Likes: 0
From: kalamazoo, mi
Originally Posted by Midwest 7's
yea an auto tranny will work... if your a woman.
Or if you only have one leg
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Jetlag
3rd Generation Specific (1993-2002)
4
Sep 29, 2015 06:52 AM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:48 AM.