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Old 02-10-03, 06:06 PM
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Assload of Dellortos - Group Buy?

While hopping around on ebay, I found these Dellorto carbs listed by a guy in Italy. All 4 of these sets are from the same guy. Who else is interested in some DHLA 40s and wants to buy a lot with me as a group buy? Please, nobody bid on these so we can use the 'buy it now' option. I've seen enough crap get away from me on ebay and I'd much rather just buy these outright. Anybody else interested?

One (or more) lot for a group buy - which one?
(All exclude shipping from Italy)

2 pr DHLA 40 - $129 : $65 each plus s/h
3 pr DHLA 40 - $179 : $60 each plus s/h
6 pr DHLA 40 - $329 : $55 each plus s/h
8 pr DHLA 40 - $359 : $45 each plus s/h

So, who's interested?
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40s are pretty much too small. The Dells used by RB were 48s. The webers that most people use are 45s.

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Well damn. Even with a stock port, 40s can't keep up, huh? Oh well.
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Originally posted by FD-less
Well damn. Even with a stock port, 40s can't keep up, huh? Oh well.
Unless you use two 40's. Then you got pleanty of carb and lots of throttle response!

TWM makes the manifold.

It'll look like this, on my little photo webpage:

http://community.webshots.com/album/27434726uRfstkWtSm


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Yup. What he said .

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The dual 40s are cool. I wasn't aware anyone still made a manifold for 'em, thanks for the heads-up. -WG
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Find me a site to get that TWM manifold from and I'll be in on that group buy!!!
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I havent looked to see if its still available, but TWMs website is www.twminduction.com .

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i'd be in for that, i'm sure its much better then my stock nikki
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Just checked their catalog, they have listed dual DCOE manifolds for both 12a engines, and 4 port 13b engines.
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http://www.twminduction.com/Catalogs...tManifolds.pdf

And it shows a price of $420 for the intake.

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Jesus, for $420 for just the manifold, you could buy a used Dellorto system for $300 and then have enough for a pump and regulator too!

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Sorry to be a postwhore, but damn, those intake manifolds are EXPENSIVE!!! 12a and 13b manifolds are $522.50 for manifold w/ linkage kit, and $420 w/o linkage kit. Looks like I'll have to find a used manifold or a cheaper place before I comit to the group buy.
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heh heh I bought two dellorto's from that guy in the past hoping to do the same thing, a dual carb setup to find the intake manifold was so expensive! the carb make some good conversation tho sitting on my desk in my room.

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Matt- Pm me about them there carbies! (heh heh)

BACK OFF, YOU GUYS! I ASKED 'EM FIRST, MAN!
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Originally posted by DriveFast7
Unless you use two 40's. Then you got pleanty of carb and lots of throttle response!

TWM makes the manifold.

It'll look like this, on my little photo webpage:

http://community.webshots.com/album/27434726uRfstkWtSm


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Wow is that a blurry picture. Not enough light for the exposure, eh? I was hoping the carbs laid over the top of the engine instead of pointing out over the exhaust manifold
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Are there any side-draft setups still being produced? I've been looking for a 45 or 48 with no luck, ever, and don't know where to look for a manifold. Where do people get their side-draft weber setups?
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Weber setups can be bought brand new for $750-$800. The Dellortos are harder to find, but they can be had. Check the for sale forums here and www.nopistons.com, as well as www.mazspeed.com, and www.thepartstrader.com periodically. I had a line on a true RB Dellorto I almost picked up for $350 complete, but I didnt. I probably should have now that I think about it...But Im pretty sure Im getting a new Weber from www.rotaryshack.com now, so I hope that Im at least getting something better than the stock Nikki .

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Originally posted by alien_rx7
I was hoping the carbs laid over the top of the engine instead of pointing out over the exhaust manifold
Eveyone whines about the carb sitting over the header. I've run my single 48mm dellorto over the header like that for a long time. It really ain't a big deal boys. Bend your stock exhaust mainfold heat shield to fit over the headers. Pop rivet a aluminum sheet under the stock heat shield, effectively creating a two layer heat shield. Hang the heat shield from the two upper exhaust studs. Route cold air from front of car to air filter and you're done.

I did this and never had fuel boil in carb even when driving in 100+F heat on a road race track.

Ceramic coating on the header helps wondors too.

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How hard would it be to set these up to work with the omp? I know with a single dcoe you just have to tap some holes, right? Can someone clue me in? 130 for 2 carbs + 420 for the manifold is $550. That is still less than get a new setup from mazdatrix. How much would i be looking at for rebuilding them first too? Im trying to do the math here to see if it is worth it. Is there much of a gain for the 2 small carbs vs one 45 on a stock port motor?
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Originally posted by DriveFast7
Eveyone whines about the carb sitting over the header. I've run my single 48mm dellorto over the header like that for a long time. It really ain't a big deal boys. Bend your stock exhaust mainfold heat shield to fit over the headers. Pop rivet a aluminum sheet under the stock heat shield, effectively creating a two layer heat shield. Hang the heat shield from the two upper exhaust studs. Route cold air from front of car to air filter and you're done.

I did this and never had fuel boil in carb even when driving in 100+F heat on a road race track.

Ceramic coating on the header helps wondors too.

Brad
I wasn't actually whining about it. I could care less about the heating stuff. I just like the look of the sidedrafts that lay over the engine better than the look of the ones that stick out to the side with the exhaust
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Originally posted by Maguire
How hard would it be to set these up to work with the omp? I know with a single dcoe you just have to tap some holes, right? Can someone clue me in? 130 for 2 carbs + 420 for the manifold is $550. That is still less than get a new setup from mazdatrix. How much would i be looking at for rebuilding them first too? Im trying to do the math here to see if it is worth it. Is there much of a gain for the 2 small carbs vs one 45 on a stock port motor?
Rebuild kits can be gotten for fifteen bucks each. It will will take $ and time rejetting the carbs to get it running right. I'd reccomend having a another car as daily driver when doing a convertion like this. Fuel jets are $4.00 each and air jets are $6.00 each typically. Plus emulsion tubes and idle fuel/air jets. Then the chokes cost $ too.

A single 45mm carb cannot supply enough gas to run a 12a stockport with good exhaust. Been there, seen that. They had to upgrade to a 48mm and got more power.

I heard that the throttle response from dual 40's on a rotary is PHENOMINAL and hp will be higher than any 45mm single.

As for Alien7, I think function is more important than form but to some looks are more important. To each their own. All show, no go is a rice thing IMHO.

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I'm gonna be buying one of those dual weber setups from TWM.... provided I can find a Weber 48IDA before I buy the manifold.
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Originally posted by someone82
heh heh I bought two dellorto's from that guy in the past hoping to do the same thing, a dual carb setup to find the intake manifold was so expensive! the carb make some good conversation tho sitting on my desk in my room.

matt
i've got a carb on my desk in my room too... its attached to something though.



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