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Old 08-07-04, 01:05 PM
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aluminum radiator for 84 gsl-se

does anyone on here know of a good place to get a deal on an aluminum radiator to replace my stock one in my 84 gsl-se?
i would like to get one that bolts right in with no modification.
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I don't know of any "deals" in this area. The bolt-in options I know of are Mazda Competition (over $400), PWR (even more), C&R (send them your current one, and they'll custom fab you something similar), your local radiator shop (some of them do that sort of thing).

I took a hybird route -- I bought an Ebay special, welded on mounting brackets, and modified the outlet tube to work.
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Howe made mine to exact specs.Theyre really good about custom stuff and it took only a few days from call to delivery. About 300 bucks and its a thick, double pass unit.
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Originally Posted by elwood
The bolt-in options I know of are Mazda Competition (over $400),
Are you sure they offer it for a 1st gen? I would love an "extra heavy duty" one for my car, if it is in fact, a straight bolt in.

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Howe made mine to exact specs.Theyre really good about custom stuff and it took only a few days from call to delivery. About 300 bucks and its a thick, double pass unit.
Steve, you got a pic of the radiator? I know yours is at an angle, so I am not sure if
that type would be a bolt in for a "regular" 1st gen.
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i dont think that the mazdacomp radiator is a straight bolt in, i think its close though

pics here http://rotarynews.com/?q=node/view/140
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Im thinking of getting the Griffin aluminum scricco style rad. Its dimensions are same as the short style early one. Its also a crossflow design, which means the inlet and outlet are on the right side, perfect for us.
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Originally Posted by Rx7carl
Im thinking of getting the Griffin aluminum scricco style rad. Its dimensions are same as the short style early one. Its also a crossflow design, which means the inlet and outlet are on the right side, perfect for us.
Yes, I believe that one's 13"H X 22"W. Griffin uses epoxy in their core to end tank joint, and I prefer the all welded construction most other manufacturers use. If you are still open to looking around, check with the roundy-round crowd, because there are many manufacturers making this style of rad at a reasonable price. Other common sizes I've seen are 19"H X 22"W and 19"H X 24"W.

Mine is a 19"H X 24" wide unit. The rad in the FBs is displaced to the passenger side to allow for the battery. My battery's in the back, so I could run a wider radiator. I mounted my oil cooler in front of the rad -SE style, so I'm using the taller style 19" rad. To make this work, I welded on some 1.5" X 1.5" aluminum L-brackets on each side and replaced the original 1.75" outlet with a 1.5" outlet that has a 3/4" heater return connection.

Since this unit is substantially thicker than my original rad, I had to use a slimline electric fan to clear the water pump pulley.
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Originally Posted by Directfreak
Are you sure they offer it for a 1st gen? I would love an "extra heavy duty" one for my car, if it is in fact, a straight bolt in.
I haven't actually seen the unit, but both the catalog and salesperson say it's a direct bolt-in. The picture in the catalog looks like a direct bolt-in.
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Damn, are you sure Griffin is epoxied and not welded/brazed? Theres a guy over on Mazspeed (Boosted 12A) using one with sucess.
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I know a few people using griffen's on their high horsepower (400-450 hp) turbo motors with great sucess, even on the track.
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sorry, almost hijacked the thread thinking I was starting a new one.....oopsy
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I've been thinking of the Scirocco style radiator from Griffin also.

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How about a 2nd gen rad? Bolts in with only a few hacksaw cuts to the inlet.
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Originally Posted by Rx7carl
Damn, are you sure Griffin is epoxied and not welded/brazed? Theres a guy over on Mazspeed (Boosted 12A) using one with sucess.
He's right, it's epoxy. I run it on my V8 with no problems. You want welded, you're gonna pay 2-3 times as much. You want a nice Aluminum radiator for $200, that's what you're going to get. Can't have everything. For what it's worth, the radiators Griffin make are awsome, and well worth the money. You won't have any problems with it.
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Originally Posted by Max7
I've been thinking of the Scirocco style radiator from Griffin also.


Im sold. Now which one to get? Boosted uses the 1 1/4, but the other one is thinner and lighter.
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I'd go for the better cooling one. lighter is ok, but when it comes to cooling, I would go for the better choice.
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Do any of you know the best place to go for radiators on line?

Looking to either have a custom radiator fabbed or find one that is what i'm looking for.

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Originally Posted by Max7
I'd go for the better cooling one. lighter is ok, but when it comes to cooling, I would go for the better choice.

Ahh but the question is whether the 1" tube one will be sufficient.
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Originally Posted by '85 GSL 302
He's right, it's epoxy. I run it on my V8 with no problems. You want welded, you're gonna pay 2-3 times as much. You want a nice Aluminum radiator for $200, that's what you're going to get. Can't have everything. For what it's worth, the radiators Griffin make are awsome, and well worth the money. You won't have any problems with it.
Mine is all welded and cost $230 off e-bay. It's a no-name so I'm not certain it's better than a Griffin, but I think I can fix it if it leaks -- the main reason I don't want epoxy. At any rate, here are pics with the new rad outlet, mounting brackets, and SPAL fan attached. All sitting on top of my car awaiting installation.

BTW -- since my rad is 24" wide, I had to bend the mounting flange on the lefthand black steel support 180 deg, so it points outboard instead of inboard.
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Just had a thought.

Yesterday I purchased 48" kit of this Coolflex radiator hose. Now I'm probably only going to use 10" for the Top radiator hose, so I have 38" left to use for the bottom. This means I could buy this Raditor for only $148

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http://racerwalsh.zoovy.com/product/GRI1_46272_X

Or Use the Long hose for the top and short for the bottom $159



http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...=egnsearch.asp

I already the the spare hose, so why not use it.

what do you guys think?


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that looks awsome what hp u running what kinda cars that i just moved to usa so im gettin use to all the new cars
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Thats not my car ...LOL

It's just an example of the hose I just bought.
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well I did it. Free shipping woo woo

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Originally Posted by Feds
How about a 2nd gen rad? Bolts in with only a few hacksaw cuts to the inlet.
I've never heard of it being this easy! Where'd you get this info. Any additional information would be great.
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If your going for just cooling, have a radiator shop install a third core. I did it to my GS, used the stock radiator, and it never gets over a third of the way up the temp gauge. Runs less than 150 degrees all the tme, even in 90 degree temps. Cost was about $100.00. And have had no problems with leaking and that was 5 years ago.



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