Advantage of using Air-Oil Cooler
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Originally posted by ASEmaster
Has anyone ever tried one of those aftermarket air/oil coolers like in a Jegs or Summit catalog? You know, the kind that comes with a remote filter mount? What do you think of using one in conjunction with the water/oil cooler?
Has anyone ever tried one of those aftermarket air/oil coolers like in a Jegs or Summit catalog? You know, the kind that comes with a remote filter mount? What do you think of using one in conjunction with the water/oil cooler?
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Advantage of using Air-Oil Cooler
Originally posted by peejay
The water-oil cooler is a little cheaper and it gets the oil warmed up faster.
That's the "why" why Mazda switched.
Note that even the GSL-SEs have a fairly poor oil cooler location - it's hard for the air to go through the oil cooler because it then has to go through the radiator, so it's easier for the air to bypass the cooler entirely. (Of course, all oil coolers DO have thermostats in them, but still... what a half-*** idea to put it in front of the radiator)
The water-oil cooler is a little cheaper and it gets the oil warmed up faster.
That's the "why" why Mazda switched.
Note that even the GSL-SEs have a fairly poor oil cooler location - it's hard for the air to go through the oil cooler because it then has to go through the radiator, so it's easier for the air to bypass the cooler entirely. (Of course, all oil coolers DO have thermostats in them, but still... what a half-*** idea to put it in front of the radiator)
At speed there is sufficient high pressure to ram air through 2 levels of radiator, just as 3 core radiators are not noticeably less able to cool coolant than 1 core rads.
At low speeds with only the fan doing the work it's a bit trickier, as the oil cooler in front of the rad has only about 1/4 of it's surface area within the lower part of the fan's sweep area, but @ low speeds and idle the fluids aren't being heated as rapidly.
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Originally posted by error402
I did the 2nd gen air/oil cooler swap on my '83 GSL and the temps are much lower now.
I would recommend it for everyone. Such a easy mod to do. If I knew it was that easy I would have done a long time ago.
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I did the 2nd gen air/oil cooler swap on my '83 GSL and the temps are much lower now.
I would recommend it for everyone. Such a easy mod to do. If I knew it was that easy I would have done a long time ago.
-Error402
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How about the hoses? I've got an 85 GS and I've noticed that the 79-82 hoses look a little shorter than the 84-85 SE hoses. I'm using the cooler that mounts directly under the radiator, so which should I use so that they will reach?
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If you have an 85, you radiator is too tall and will not allow placement of the oil cooler under it. You will have to mount it slightly in front of the radiator, just like a stock GSL-SE oil cooler.
I am pretty sure you will need the longer GSL-SE style oil cooler hoses, or have some made.
I am pretty sure you will need the longer GSL-SE style oil cooler hoses, or have some made.
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if you change to an 81 core with mounts for the cooler those hose are the same length. cause it is pretty much the same car. one note though if you change to the cooler you have a few things to change like you need the oil filer mount off an 81 engine, some heater hose to reroute a hose, may have to remove ac to get the hose on the front, and alot of tlc.
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Originally posted by bliffle
Oh oh. I better convert my 83GS and 85GSL. But where do I get the parts? Junkyard?
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Oh oh. I better convert my 83GS and 85GSL. But where do I get the parts? Junkyard?
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