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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 10:46 AM
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80 rotors on 84 gs?

Will 80 rotors fit on an 84 GS?


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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 12:11 PM
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Brake rotors?

No. They changed the outer wheel bearing in '84.
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 01:25 PM
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Maybe Ill just change complete spindles......



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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 06:34 PM
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It was a change for the better. The '83-down outer bearing is *tiny*, and they go out of adjustment all the time if you drive the car hard. For a while there I was readjusting the bearings every other week.
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 06:36 PM
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yes the good rotors will fit
12a to 12a that is
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Old Mar 23, 2004 | 10:08 PM
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yes the good rotors will fit
12a to 12a that is

wtf?


What was that, come again.....

I guess it looks like ill be changing spindles....
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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 06:37 PM
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Originally posted by wwilliam54
yes the good rotors will fit
12a to 12a that is
You really have no clue what you're talking about....
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Old Mar 24, 2004 | 08:33 PM
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maybe he ment rotors like within the engine?
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Old Mar 25, 2004 | 08:38 AM
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You really have no clue what you're talking about....
brake rotors, not engine
my bad
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Old Mar 25, 2004 | 12:28 PM
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PJ is correct... 79/80 BRAKE rotors will not work on 84/85.... the bearings are different... So the cross drilled 80 rotors I have... they wont fit the 84/85 I want to run them on... Hopefully some good pads are still there....

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Old Mar 25, 2004 | 12:29 PM
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Are the spindles size the same? Could I swap rotors over, if I use the same bearings for the same rotor?





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Old Mar 25, 2004 | 03:48 PM
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Are the spindles size the same? Could I swap rotors over, if I use the same bearings for the same rotor?





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if you want them that bad, swap the whole strut assemblies from the 80 over to the 84, that will work fine
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Except you won't be able to use aftermarket struts.

Andy, do yourself a favor an eBay those crossdrileld rotors. They are worthless other than for looks, and they stop looking good after a few thousand miles.

- Pete (wait... can you even *see* the brake rotors with the wheels on? )
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Except you won't be able to use aftermarket struts.

Andy, do yourself a favor an eBay those crossdrileld rotors. They are worthless other than for looks, and they stop looking good after a few thousand miles.

- Pete (wait... can you even *see* the brake rotors with the wheels on? )
Im sure they have more than a few thousand on them... and they are gorgous!!!

Yes you can see them.... but they are kinda puny looking...

Get on aim,and IM me, rotaryrx7toy , please....


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Old Mar 25, 2004 | 10:12 PM
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Andrew:

79-80 struts are unique.
Struts are the same 81-83.
Struts are the same 84-5 12A. GSL-SE *may* be different from 84-5 12A.
All struts will interchange as a unit, however.
Rotors are the same 79-83.
Rotors are the same 84-5 12A.
Calipers are unique in '79
Calipers are unique in '80
Calipers are the same 81-85 12A

At least, as far as I know...

that means that you could sell your rotors to anyone with a 79-83 12A car. Or you could put your '80 struts on the '84, but be stuck with non-adjustable strut cartridges (Illuminas are 81-5 only.) Use the '84 calipers (there's a thread difference on the hydraulic fittings. changed in ;81). Remember, I've got '84 GSL-SE struts in my '79. Same control arm/ball joint/steering arm.
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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 07:38 AM
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Why cant I just change spindles, instead of the whole damn assembly?
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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 06:18 PM
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The spindle is part of the strut housing, and the strut housing on the '79-80 is a different length than the '81-85. Nobody makes any performance struts for the '79-80, it's all '81-85, so if this is something you potentially care about then you do not want the '79-80 strut housing.

It's easier to change the whole assembly... unbolt the caliper (one bolt, pivot it off), unclip the brake hose from the strut, two bolts at the bottom, four nuts at the top, and it's out. Changing the strut housing requires disassembling this far, then getting a spring compressor and an impact gun...
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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 08:40 PM
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Aw, c'mon Andrew - go take a look! Or look in a CSM - maybe like the ones I have on-line (85 will work fine for '84)
Cars with Macpherson struts typically don't have seperate spindles - it's part of the strut housing.

I also have pictures of struts out of the car on my site in the section on suspension swaps in my '79.
http://www.wankel.net/~krwright/cars...sion_swap.html

Besides, it's easy to change the whole thing. Pull the caliper, detach the brake line from it's clip on the strut housing, four bolts on top and two bolts on bottom and the whole assembly comes out.
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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 08:45 PM
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Aw, c'mon Andrew - go take a look! Or look in a CSM - maybe like the ones I have on-line (85 will work fine for '84)
Cars with Macpherson struts typically don't have seperate spindles - it's part of the strut housing.

I also have pictures of struts out of the car on my site in the section on suspension swaps in my '79.
http://www.wankel.net/~krwright/cars...sion_swap.html

Besides, it's easy to change the whole thing. Pull the caliper, detach the brake line from it's clip on the strut housing, four bolts on top and two bolts on bottom and the whole assembly comes out.
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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 08:56 PM
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Dammit, it said it didn't go throught the first time!
Ah, well, good for the post count I suppose... Gotta get to 100 so I can use my own avatar!
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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 09:18 PM
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Actually most cars with struts *do* have separate knuckles. RX-7s are just weirdities, like some other furrin cars.
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Old Mar 26, 2004 | 09:22 PM
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Really?
Oh, OK. All my other cars have been old GM iron, so what do I know?
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Dammit, it said it didn't go throught the first time!
Ah, well, good for the post count I suppose... Gotta get to 100 so I can use my own avatar!
Hey look who it is


Yeah, I got myself out there today to tackle it... Gonna go ahead and pull off everything tomarrow, control arm and all... I like it under Mar3's old thing...

Everything seemed so perfect and detailed.... Like all the rubber under the front end looks fairly new.... and the metal piece under the horn botton was all cleaned up like I have never seen, just minor stuff, that made me give more props to him! I cant wait to see how much better real brakes feel like.... dropped.... with new seats, steering wheel, and shifter.....

Thanks for your help everyone, Laters, Andrew
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