4500 dollars and a first gen!
09-10-03, 10:27 PM
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4500 dollars and a first gen!
What should I do? i THINK its the fuel injected one. Not 100% sure tho. What could I do? Is there a turbo kit I can use? and if so, how much boost could I push to the engine and what HP?
09-11-03, 02:35 AM
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The question "How much boost can I push to the engine?" is stupid. How much boost you can run relies on what you do to the motor in the first place. You would have to port the motor to run a considerable amount of boost, and to do this it means that you'll also have to rebuild it. Spend the money on the Integra....if that's what you have. I hate to put it this way, but you sound like one of those ricers that just figured out that the red car in the Fast and the Furious is an RX7, or maybe you got spanked by one on the highway. I'm probably wrong and if I am I'm sorry. The first thing you should do is learn everything you can about these cars before you go and spend your money on a turbo. Without the knowledge you won't get anywhere. You'll just get a blown motor.
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Originally posted by AdrenalifeRX7
The question "How much boost can I push to the engine?" is stupid. How much boost you can run relies on what you do to the motor in the first place. You would have to port the motor to run a considerable amount of boost, and to do this it means that you'll also have to rebuild it. Spend the money on the Integra....if that's what you have. I hate to put it this way, but you sound like one of those ricers that just figured out that the red car in the Fast and the Furious is an RX7, or maybe you got spanked by one on the highway. I'm probably wrong and if I am I'm sorry. The first thing you should do is learn everything you can about these cars before you go and spend your money on a turbo. Without the knowledge you won't get anywhere. You'll just get a blown motor.
The question "How much boost can I push to the engine?" is stupid. How much boost you can run relies on what you do to the motor in the first place. You would have to port the motor to run a considerable amount of boost, and to do this it means that you'll also have to rebuild it. Spend the money on the Integra....if that's what you have. I hate to put it this way, but you sound like one of those ricers that just figured out that the red car in the Fast and the Furious is an RX7, or maybe you got spanked by one on the highway. I'm probably wrong and if I am I'm sorry. The first thing you should do is learn everything you can about these cars before you go and spend your money on a turbo. Without the knowledge you won't get anywhere. You'll just get a blown motor.
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09-11-03, 05:32 AM
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Ya man......If ya can't tell if a car is EFI from looking at it, you have much to learn about general automotive mechanics...........let alone a turbo rotary.
Please don't be discouraged though. Buying an Rx7 is the best thing you could have done. It is a true sports car, that deserves to be treated as such. You can learn everything you need to know about our cars on this forum. Just search everything first, then ask questions.
Good luck
Please don't be discouraged though. Buying an Rx7 is the best thing you could have done. It is a true sports car, that deserves to be treated as such. You can learn everything you need to know about our cars on this forum. Just search everything first, then ask questions.
Good luck
09-11-03, 07:07 AM
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Originally posted by AdrenalifeRX7
The question "How much boost can I push to the engine?" is stupid. How much boost you can run relies on what you do to the motor in the first place. You would have to port the motor to run a considerable amount of boost, and to do this it means that you'll also have to rebuild it. Spend the money on the Integra....if that's what you have. I hate to put it this way, but you sound like one of those ricers that just figured out that the red car in the Fast and the Furious is an RX7, or maybe you got spanked by one on the highway. I'm probably wrong and if I am I'm sorry. The first thing you should do is learn everything you can about these cars before you go and spend your money on a turbo. Without the knowledge you won't get anywhere. You'll just get a blown motor.
The question "How much boost can I push to the engine?" is stupid. How much boost you can run relies on what you do to the motor in the first place. You would have to port the motor to run a considerable amount of boost, and to do this it means that you'll also have to rebuild it. Spend the money on the Integra....if that's what you have. I hate to put it this way, but you sound like one of those ricers that just figured out that the red car in the Fast and the Furious is an RX7, or maybe you got spanked by one on the highway. I'm probably wrong and if I am I'm sorry. The first thing you should do is learn everything you can about these cars before you go and spend your money on a turbo. Without the knowledge you won't get anywhere. You'll just get a blown motor.
Im sorry. but my Integra would spank the HELL out of most rotaries.... Too bad it 's totaled.... If you call an Integra wiht a B18C1 engine and a Turbo kit with a T3/TO4E a rice car... I'd hate to see some TRUE rice cars.. Plus the Rx7 in that gay movie was a 3rd gen, not a 1st gen. And when I say HOW MUCH BOOST CAN I RUN, I mean on a stock motor... I could run 6.5-8Psi Reliably on my engine, and I wanted to know what it is on Rotary 13b or 12a non built..
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09-11-03, 08:19 AM
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wrong move.
quote turbob18c1teg "Im sorry. but my Integra would spank the HELL out of most rotaries" this shows how little you know.
quote turbob18c1teg "when I say HOW MUCH BOOST CAN I RUN, I mean on a stock motor... I could run 6.5-8Psi Reliably on my engine, and I wanted to know what it is on Rotary 13b or 12a non built.." this confirms it.
quote turbob18c1teg "If you call an Integra wiht a B18C1 engine and a Turbo kit with a T3/TO4E a rice car... I'd hate to see some TRUE rice cars.. this attatude says AdrenalifeRX7 is probly correct.
quote turbob18c1teg "Im sorry. but my Integra would spank the HELL out of most rotaries" this shows how little you know.
quote turbob18c1teg "when I say HOW MUCH BOOST CAN I RUN, I mean on a stock motor... I could run 6.5-8Psi Reliably on my engine, and I wanted to know what it is on Rotary 13b or 12a non built.." this confirms it.
quote turbob18c1teg "If you call an Integra wiht a B18C1 engine and a Turbo kit with a T3/TO4E a rice car... I'd hate to see some TRUE rice cars.. this attatude says AdrenalifeRX7 is probly correct.
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Damn! Give the guy a break.
It's a pretty damn simple question:
How much boost can you run on a stock engine with no internal engine modifications?
He's not a retard for asking this question. It's a very smart question to ask. Everyone has certain performance goals. he probably wants to know if he can meet them without rebuilding the engine.
Damn people. Way to be unfriendly.
If you don't want to help him, don't but I don't see why you have to flame him and call him a ricer. He's not asking how to get his type R stick to stay on the back.
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It's a pretty damn simple question:
How much boost can you run on a stock engine with no internal engine modifications?
He's not a retard for asking this question. It's a very smart question to ask. Everyone has certain performance goals. he probably wants to know if he can meet them without rebuilding the engine.
Damn people. Way to be unfriendly.
If you don't want to help him, don't but I don't see why you have to flame him and call him a ricer. He's not asking how to get his type R stick to stay on the back.
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theloudroom the question is not that simple. do you know the anser? well I guess not otherwise you would have ansered it. he does not give anuff info on the engine to even give a ball park. go rant somewhere else.
as for the question he ask
1) stock 12a boost = none
you can not boost a stock 12a na with out mods:ie ; fuel lines, pump, fmu, carb mods,intake hat, intake pluming, exhuast, ect,ect... amount of boost depends on level of all this and more. like condition of engine and such.
2) 13b efi , again like above but changes for fuel injection.
3) ability to hold boost down to that psi/ and what the boost patern and ablity of the turbo are ect,ect,ect
4)read threads learn the basics then ask the questions
5) he said he is not sure if its fi or not
6)there are no complete kits available that are not custom
7) he invited my post with the integra spanking rotary comment
8) there is a monster post on this type of info at the top of this forum here it is https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...threadid=65800
9) theloudroom you need to get to know others here before you rant at them. your time on and few post say you are new please earn time and grade first.
as for the question he ask
1) stock 12a boost = none
you can not boost a stock 12a na with out mods:ie ; fuel lines, pump, fmu, carb mods,intake hat, intake pluming, exhuast, ect,ect... amount of boost depends on level of all this and more. like condition of engine and such.
2) 13b efi , again like above but changes for fuel injection.
3) ability to hold boost down to that psi/ and what the boost patern and ablity of the turbo are ect,ect,ect
4)read threads learn the basics then ask the questions
5) he said he is not sure if its fi or not
6)there are no complete kits available that are not custom
7) he invited my post with the integra spanking rotary comment
8) there is a monster post on this type of info at the top of this forum here it is https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...threadid=65800
9) theloudroom you need to get to know others here before you rant at them. your time on and few post say you are new please earn time and grade first.
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09-11-03, 11:05 AM
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Being unfriendly won't get us anywhere, fellas. At least he's considering buying a 1st gen in the first place, give him that much.
B18, boosting a 1st gen is a lengthy process. Boosting a honda is just as hard, but LOTS of people have done it. I'm saying this because I know several, and yes, they're ******* fast. I've also driven a turbo 12a car, with the original engine. The turbo kit was bought in the 80's and the car had been turbo since 7000 kms. There is A LOT of work to do, and the car still didn't run quite right (although I think that's the Holley's fault). Rotaries aren't very simple cars to tune. A dirty throttle body will make you think you need to rebuild your engine, and a clogged cat will REALLY make you think you need to rebuild your engine (trust me I know, ugh). If you are still serious, and you have the $$$, I'm sure most of us on here could recommend some great shops that do turbo rotary work. If you're a mechanic yourself, even better. The first thing I would concentrate on is finding yourself a good car, not a "decent" one. You're going to have quite a shock when you see how many shitty 1st gens there are compared to minty DC2 integras.
On a closing note, the honda forums are a little different than this one. There are a lot more people on there who only care about body "kits" and turbo "kits" and decal "kits". We're a little different. Most threads here are: "This broke, how do I fix it?" as opposed to "The 20" wheels I just bought don't fit, what gives?!?!" Just be a little more prudent about asking questions that could easily be answered by spending 10 minutes reading through a couple threads.
Lastly, AdrenalifeRX7, you have a really nice car from what I can tell. Please don't be like the typical "nice car jerk". I'm sure you know lots about turbo rotaries, so if you feel the need to bash someone because they don't, do us a favor and just don't say anything in the first place. This isn't a flame, just a suggestion.
Sorry if I've offended anyone.
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B18, boosting a 1st gen is a lengthy process. Boosting a honda is just as hard, but LOTS of people have done it. I'm saying this because I know several, and yes, they're ******* fast. I've also driven a turbo 12a car, with the original engine. The turbo kit was bought in the 80's and the car had been turbo since 7000 kms. There is A LOT of work to do, and the car still didn't run quite right (although I think that's the Holley's fault). Rotaries aren't very simple cars to tune. A dirty throttle body will make you think you need to rebuild your engine, and a clogged cat will REALLY make you think you need to rebuild your engine (trust me I know, ugh). If you are still serious, and you have the $$$, I'm sure most of us on here could recommend some great shops that do turbo rotary work. If you're a mechanic yourself, even better. The first thing I would concentrate on is finding yourself a good car, not a "decent" one. You're going to have quite a shock when you see how many shitty 1st gens there are compared to minty DC2 integras.
On a closing note, the honda forums are a little different than this one. There are a lot more people on there who only care about body "kits" and turbo "kits" and decal "kits". We're a little different. Most threads here are: "This broke, how do I fix it?" as opposed to "The 20" wheels I just bought don't fit, what gives?!?!" Just be a little more prudent about asking questions that could easily be answered by spending 10 minutes reading through a couple threads.
Lastly, AdrenalifeRX7, you have a really nice car from what I can tell. Please don't be like the typical "nice car jerk". I'm sure you know lots about turbo rotaries, so if you feel the need to bash someone because they don't, do us a favor and just don't say anything in the first place. This isn't a flame, just a suggestion.
Sorry if I've offended anyone.
Zac
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09-11-03, 12:18 PM
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I agree, c'mon guys lets control are selves, but !! about blasting the hell out of a rotory, tells me that SOMEBODY around here has had there *** spanked by rotorys. A totaled acura tells me someone can't drive very well. Must be WAY young. IMO .
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I duoubt this kid could actually every turbo a 1st gen. Mostly because he probably thinks there are actually kits to do it, like for his glorified honda. Wrong, its either a leangthy swap to a BT. Or else you custom fab it all. The "kits" from the 80's are really old and expensive for what you get, and none of them are actually complete. The stock 12a and 13b are also high compression, so on a stock engine to be reliable can only really puch mabe 5 psi. T2's pushed like 6 and they are low compression. I dissagree with nekky when he says "boosting a 1st gen is a lengthy process. Boosting a honda is just as hard, but LOTS of people have done it." Boosting a NA rx7 is much harder. For a honda right now i could go and choose from like 20 different kits that could be at my door in 3 days. Can i do this for my rx7? no way. They actually make turbo intakes that fit and exhaust manifolds that are made for the engine. Unlike trying to find one that is 20 years old for a 12a.
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Thanks, Flat. Actually, no one (myself included) has pointed B18 to the sticky at the top of the 1st gen section. And yes, I know about the honda turbo kits and how easy they are, I was just trying to say that it's not THAT easy 
Keep in mind that honda VTEC powerplants aren't exactly low compression either 
B18, go read the TII Swap thread at the top of the 1st gen section There's LOTS of good info in there, and that's the best all around way to go turbo in a 1st gen. Not the easiest, mind you, and a hell of a lot harder than ANY honda swap, but it has the most potential per dollar. If you're REALLY power hungry, and have the budget to boot, talk to MikeP-28, Directfreak or Setzep, and ask them about their Cosmo 13b-RE swap. Those motors, with a single turbo and exhaust, and the right ecu, will keep up to a 500hp V8 car, no problem. Just thought I'd throw in some more info. Get reading!!
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Keep in mind that honda VTEC powerplants aren't exactly low compression either B18, go read the TII Swap thread at the top of the 1st gen section
There's LOTS of good info in there, and that's the best all around way to go turbo in a 1st gen. Not the easiest, mind you, and a hell of a lot harder than ANY honda swap, but it has the most potential per dollar. If you're REALLY power hungry, and have the budget to boot, talk to MikeP-28, Directfreak or Setzep, and ask them about their Cosmo 13b-RE swap. Those motors, with a single turbo and exhaust, and the right ecu, will keep up to a 500hp V8 car, no problem. Just thought I'd throw in some more info. Get reading!!Zac
09-11-03, 01:21 PM
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wow... doesnt this look like the third gen section all of a sudden 
kuhlrx7 - "9) theloudroom you need to get to know others here before you rant at them. your time on and few post say you are new please earn time and grade first."
doesnt look like youve been here that long either.. just chill out, if you dont have anything to add to the post other than "your a ricer for wanting a turbo fb", then dont say anything...
the last thing i want to see, and im sure others agree is this section ending up being full of dick heads. just chill out, and if you dont know the answer to the question, or dont have anything to add, dont reply.. simple as that.
kuhlrx7 - "9) theloudroom you need to get to know others here before you rant at them. your time on and few post say you are new please earn time and grade first."
doesnt look like youve been here that long either.. just chill out, if you dont have anything to add to the post other than "your a ricer for wanting a turbo fb", then dont say anything...
the last thing i want to see, and im sure others agree is this section ending up being full of dick heads. just chill out, and if you dont know the answer to the question, or dont have anything to add, dont reply.. simple as that.
09-11-03, 02:44 PM
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Yeah, shutup kid.
Here is what needs to be done to turbo a stock 12a:
-TurboII Exhaust manifold - oval bolt holes and grind exhaust path so they match the 12a exhaust gasket.
-TurboII Turbo
-TurboII Wastegate
-Use whatever BOV you want, or you can not use one, but the turbo will last about 1/2 as long and won't spool up as fast between shifts.
-Stock carb with mods done to handle boost
-J-Spec 12aT intake manifold
You can use a different carb if you want, but this is the cheapest way and works good.
-Turbo Hat for Carb
-GSL-SE Fuel pump(or other high pressure pump)
-Rising rate Fuel pressure regulator
-Drill hole/put in fitting in engine front cover for turbo oil return line
-T fitting where the oil pressure gauge gets it's reading from for turbo oil feed line
-Lock distributor
-Custom exhaust
If you've got a well-stocked garage, it isn't too hard to do.
-TurboII Exhaust manifold - oval bolt holes and grind exhaust path so they match the 12a exhaust gasket.
-TurboII Turbo
-TurboII Wastegate
-Use whatever BOV you want, or you can not use one, but the turbo will last about 1/2 as long and won't spool up as fast between shifts.
-Stock carb with mods done to handle boost
-J-Spec 12aT intake manifold
You can use a different carb if you want, but this is the cheapest way and works good.
-Turbo Hat for Carb
-GSL-SE Fuel pump(or other high pressure pump)
-Rising rate Fuel pressure regulator
-Drill hole/put in fitting in engine front cover for turbo oil return line
-T fitting where the oil pressure gauge gets it's reading from for turbo oil feed line
-Lock distributor
-Custom exhaust
If you've got a well-stocked garage, it isn't too hard to do.
09-11-03, 03:50 PM
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Originally posted by mark perez
I agree, c'mon guys lets control are selves, but !! about blasting the hell out of a rotory, tells me that SOMEBODY around here has had there *** spanked by rotorys. A totaled acura tells me someone can't drive very well. Must be WAY young. IMO .
I agree, c'mon guys lets control are selves, but !! about blasting the hell out of a rotory, tells me that SOMEBODY around here has had there *** spanked by rotorys. A totaled acura tells me someone can't drive very well. Must be WAY young. IMO .
What an *** this guy is...
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i never understood why people have to be jerks when a simple question is asked. if you arent going to help out just dont respond. it makes people look dumber when they try to talk down to someone else.
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onepointone reread my post. the thread question was ansered I even posted a link to the big sticky. as for how long I have been here lets see you are sep 2002, I am oct 2002. the integra comment invited a blast. all hell look at your pm
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This Integra with a turboed B18 must be having the laugh of his life right now. Hell i would.
He posts.
Gets flamed.
Then people say, "Let's not flame him"
Then people start flaming the people that flamed him.
*Flaming and Defending*
Then total chaos.
Pretty ironic and funneh eh? I got an idea!
Zachstylez
He posts.
Gets flamed.
Then people say, "Let's not flame him"
Then people start flaming the people that flamed him.
*Flaming and Defending*
Then total chaos.
Pretty ironic and funneh eh? I got an idea!
Zachstylez
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In my opinion, coming in and asking about Rx-7's and then saying that their Integra is faster is just plain stupid. How can you expect anyone to give you respect? Or even care to answer to help you in the first place?
Change your attitude and maybe you'll get a little more respect.
Change your attitude and maybe you'll get a little more respect.