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Old 02-09-07, 09:22 AM
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This is a 1st gen but still really funny on eBay

Another brilliant mind at work....wonder what kind of pulleys they were planning on using?

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He's got one bid and no doubt that's just to get the body.

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What a waste of a good first gen....
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How is that a waste? That motor will make a crapload more power than any 12a will
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It's a waste because you've killed the reason the car exists for most enthusiasts...the handling and the braking will be affected by having a boat anchor installed in front and on top of the front wheel axis..

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You act like thats never been before. That is in nice shape and one of my favorite gen 1 colors.
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I've never seen anyone attempt an actual iron block Big Block Chevy before....and now you see why...look at the pic where the front of the block is shown from the passenger side shot...that's just the crank damper...no pulleys, but look at how close it is to the radiator support...the shroud is gone and that's the AC radiator you're looking at..

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...here's another shot from the same side but with a rotary, core support shroud (missing on the abomination....) and no radiator for comparison...



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I did the leg work for y'all...



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OK so you dont think its gonna work out once you get the pulleys and radiator in there? No room yer saying?
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Another one gone R.I.P 1983 - 2007
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Say what you will about it not handling well. But, this would be a fun straight line ride with that power to weight ratio.
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With the short rods in back, a Watts link set-up and those 185 series tires, it will be nothing more than the "burn out king" at the next Car Craft meet. If you look close at both pics, you can see the lower engine mount biscuit. Note where it is for the rotary and then for the BBC...and regarding actual fit, once the pulleys are on, you are mounting a 1" thick radiator directly onto the front sheetmetal. You cannot use the radiator support system for the car as intended, which is why you don't see any of that rad support box there in the abomination pic.

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Another one gone R.I.P 1983 - 2007
dont give up hope.
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Here...



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Old 02-09-07, 11:23 AM
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Id still buy it....he says he still has the rotary...so i would install it back in and sell the piston engine and get some money for it. Its really CLEAN!!!!
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ha i love the seats in that car. any info on them? just regular seats or what?
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Yep, those would be factory, I have a maroon leather set in my 82 GSL
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Originally Posted by mar3
With the short rods in back, a Watts link set-up and those 185 series tires, it will be nothing more than the "burn out king"

are you sayin that the stock set up is not good for str8 lines? the stock 1st gen and the fox body mustangs have almost the same set up. just the 1st gens is mini with a watts link..... the fox body mustangings have the fastest stock Suspension times in the world.... and the 1st gens set up looks pretty much like it


now the tires would be a problem
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Look at the picture and tell me what you see regarding weight distribution. The fastest Mustangs in the world may have stock rear suspension "idealogy", but they are not stock-stock past 11 second quarter miles...plus the engine set back is different, the wheelbase is different...the shorter control arms of the RX-7 won't allow the new CL or CG of the car to be realized, so you won't be able to plant the tires.

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How is that a waste? That motor will make a crapload more power than any 12a will...
You think a 12A can't more than 260 rwhp? There's a guy on this board with a SN of 680RWHP12A who'd beg to differ...

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Id still buy it....he says he still has the rotary...so i would install it back in and sell the piston engine and get some money for it. Its really CLEAN!!!!
That's a damn good plan and I'm sure that's what the guy bidding $500 is hoping for...however, with a "Buy It Now!" of $3500, it's a safe bet the guy's reserve is about 500 or so short of that. I can't check it now since I'm at work (eBay is a 'banned' site.....) to confirm, though.


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forget the V8,

i'm always shocked that anyone would buy an automatic sports car...
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Originally Posted by mar3
Look at the picture and tell me what you see regarding weight distribution. The fastest Mustangs in the world may have stock rear suspension "idealogy", but they are not stock-stock past 11 second quarter miles...plus the engine set back is different, the wheelbase is different...the shorter control arms of the RX-7 won't allow the new CL or CG of the car to be realized, so you won't be able to plant the tires.

i was not talking about that car... just the 1st gen Suspension its is a really good set up..and i know that the fast mustangs runing "STOCK" Suspension are running diff control arms,shocks,springs, ect ect... all stock Suspension means is its in the same location/stock set up diff parts. but the 1st gen has more or less the same set up.. there is just not the aftermarket part following as with the mustang.........

also there are alot of guys on the fourm that will say that weight distribution is not that much off with a SBC... they auto X the cars and say there is not much diff at all other then the power

on that note im 12a for ever..... i like my lil 1.1
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I didn't even notice the auto tranny....good call, Captain!

And I totally agree the stock RX-7 suspension works well when it has the weight parameters it was designed with. The CG will be in the ballpark and the general lack of wheelhop attests to that in these cars. You add a ton of weight to the front and past that front axle line and you've got a different car and different CL and CG and the adjustability back there simply doesn't exist to compensate for it.

Regarding your friends with the V8 abomination creations "competing" them, how many of them have national SCCA titles with those cars? How many of them have made national magazines like Car&Driver or better yet, GRM, with its annual low-buck national competition that brings out REAL racers, big and small names alike? There is a very pointed reason I ask this of you and your friends...

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you mis read what i said... there is alot of guys on the forum one guy has a sbc with sc and he auto x's it.. i have read alot of post about it.. and the all aluminum sbc dont weigh much more then are lil heavy motors.. granted they are still heavyer but its not by much 50 lbs i think..... and i know that will change how the car acts caz of the extra 50 up front.. but its not near as bad as most ppl think

all i have to say about the car that is for sale is at least its not a ford motor
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He autocrosses w/o success....I hear what you're saying but I obviously don't believe it....and some heads-up competition showed how much the car's balance actually is affected from one of those GRM meets.

2ndgens and 3rdgens seem to be oblivious as to what's under the hood, but none of the V8 1stgens did too good.



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