1988 13B into 85 GSL.
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1988 13B into 85 GSL.
I'm considering swapping a 13B into a 1985 GSL from which the donor car would be a 1988 GXL. The transmissions differ, however, as the 85' is a 5 speed and the 88' is an auto. I am wondering how involved this tast might be. Some questions I am considering:
Will the 85' transmission hold up to the power of the 13B, and will it directly bolt up?
Would I have to find a computer out of a 5spd to run the 13B since it came from an auto?
How about wiring and what not; is it very complicated to those that have performed something similar to this?
Basically, what might I need in order for this to work and how time consuming would it be vs. rebuildint the 12A?
I am not wanting to get into this project if it becomes monetarily expensive. I have these two cars laying around, and am just considering the swap if it is easy enough.
Thanks in advance.
-Kyle
Will the 85' transmission hold up to the power of the 13B, and will it directly bolt up?
Would I have to find a computer out of a 5spd to run the 13B since it came from an auto?
How about wiring and what not; is it very complicated to those that have performed something similar to this?
Basically, what might I need in order for this to work and how time consuming would it be vs. rebuildint the 12A?
I am not wanting to get into this project if it becomes monetarily expensive. I have these two cars laying around, and am just considering the swap if it is easy enough.
Thanks in advance.
-Kyle
Last edited by Mazderati; 09-28-02 at 01:22 PM.
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Re: 1988 13B into 85 GSL.
Originally posted by Mazderati
Will the 85' transmission hold up to the power of the 13B, and will it directly bolt up?
Will the 85' transmission hold up to the power of the 13B, and will it directly bolt up?
Would I have to find a computer out of a 5spd to run the 13B since it came from an auto?
How about wiring and what not; is it very complicated to those that have performed something similar to this?
Basically, what might I need in order for this to work and how time consuming would it be vs. rebuildint the 12A?
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I just finished putting my 88 13B into my 85 GSL. Huh, weird.
Anyway, since you have a fully functional 1st gen, the swap will be pretty easy. The problems will arise from the ECU of course. You must make sure that you use EVERY sensor from the stock 88 ECU or you'll regret it. I thought I was tough **** and cut into the harness, getting rid of anything that I thought I didn't need. I didn't need it, but the ECU did. I then had to buy a stand alone ECU to control everything (which is bad ***, but not too cheap). I'd recommend just pulling the entire harness from the 88 and putting it in. If you think something can be removed, leave it in anyway, at least until you have the car running.
As far as stuff you'll need, GSL-SE oil pan, GSL-SE front cover (any first gen front cover will do, but the GSL-SE cover allows use of the stock 88 OMP. Much easier this way), GSL-SE front engine mount (available from Mazdatrix, RB, or you can mod your 12a one, but that's not recommended), and a weekend.
Pretty easy swap, all in all. If you have any specific questions about it, feel free to ask me via PM or just make a post. I hit every possible problem and encountered every possible error along the way, so this is my field of RX-7 expertise.
Anyway, since you have a fully functional 1st gen, the swap will be pretty easy. The problems will arise from the ECU of course. You must make sure that you use EVERY sensor from the stock 88 ECU or you'll regret it. I thought I was tough **** and cut into the harness, getting rid of anything that I thought I didn't need. I didn't need it, but the ECU did. I then had to buy a stand alone ECU to control everything (which is bad ***, but not too cheap). I'd recommend just pulling the entire harness from the 88 and putting it in. If you think something can be removed, leave it in anyway, at least until you have the car running.
As far as stuff you'll need, GSL-SE oil pan, GSL-SE front cover (any first gen front cover will do, but the GSL-SE cover allows use of the stock 88 OMP. Much easier this way), GSL-SE front engine mount (available from Mazdatrix, RB, or you can mod your 12a one, but that's not recommended), and a weekend.
Pretty easy swap, all in all. If you have any specific questions about it, feel free to ask me via PM or just make a post. I hit every possible problem and encountered every possible error along the way, so this is my field of RX-7 expertise.