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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 12:22 AM
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13b in a 1st gen?

well ive never thought of even wanting to own a 1st gen untill now, and all i wanna know, how easily will a 13b go into an FB?
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 12:36 AM
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As easy as eating a piece of apple pie
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 12:45 AM
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If you find a GSL-SE it will even have a 13b in it from the factory. If you want to do a 13bt out of a TII, it is a really easy fit too, mainly wiring, hell you can even do a couple things to get the TII tranny to fit and have the shifter in the same spot. Great fun cars.
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 12:47 AM
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can be easy, can be difficult, depending what engine you're using, from what year, keeping fuel injection, etc.

a 86+ 13b is fairly simple if you have a SE, a 13b of any year requires some work on the crossmember or a 13b crossmember itself. keeping the fuel injection is another matter in itself. there is a write-up in the stickied FAQ about doing so i believe. but i havent run into many threads about doing a SE 13b into a GS body, which requires the front engine harness, kind of a pain to install, however it can be bypassed i would just use a carb on it and save yourself one helluva a headache, depending on your mechanical and electrical skills its very easy and can be done in a weekend.

search the forums, there is a wealth of info here and g'luck.
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 01:19 PM
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Do you have tools? Time ? and a little money? if so that is all you need. Cuz you have the forum and alot of these guys or girls KNOW these cars.
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 03:24 PM
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i have all the tools i need, limited money (like a lot of ppl) and plenty of time.

i was thinking getting a southern 1st gen no rust or anything, and then dropping in a tII if possible, which now i know is possible.

i would prolly want to try and stay with the fuel injection, but if its a huge pain in the ***, well i guess i wont.

any other suggestions guys? im in need of some help cuz i really know nothing about the 1st gens, i mean NOTHING
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 03:26 PM
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oh yea, anyone know where i can find a wide body kit? ive seen a couple and they look sweet, just never got around to finding the name
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 03:39 PM
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Consider All the Options

IF you are really going to consider a TII, that is a fair amount of work to convert. If you are going to all that trouble, be open minded and consider the other obvious options to get that kind of power. I have done rotary conversions and other conversions. They all have their pros and cons.

I recommend you spend some time reading this web site:

http://www.grannysspeedshop.com/

I also recommend you start with a really nice car, or you will be investing a lot of time and money and won't have anything of much value when you are done.
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 04:08 PM
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I swapped an FC engine into my SA.

It was a bit of pain. But if you have a wiring diagram and a donor car you can definately make it work. everything bolts in easily. And having the later model fuel injection could be nice.
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 04:37 PM
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I'm putting an 86+ engine in my 84 and "I am going carb just to stay away form the harness headache. I will let you know how it goes. My engine is at powdercoat and will be sent out at the end of this week.
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 10:14 PM
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yea let me know how it goes for sure, cuz im still debating on just buying a non running fc and converting it to TII or having a kick *** first gen
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Old Apr 16, 2006 | 11:54 PM
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A kick *** forst gen will be more fun then an FC less weight more nimble IMO. Seems more genuine then an FC. Then again I love these little cars. A TII in an FB is the ****.
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Old Apr 17, 2006 | 12:37 AM
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Knowledge, tools, time and money!

1. Plenty of information already on the forum plus members will always give specific advice.

2, Tools, just the average mechanics set is sufficient.

3. Time, 39-49 hours would be typical spread over months is common.

4. Money, how long is a piece of string? Going for a TII you can double the cost of an imported engine so you are looking from $3000 up depending on parts used. The total can climb to $6,000 if you upgade every thing whilke at the topend some people $10,000.
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