Rx7 vs Miata
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10-29-19, 11:50 AM
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I kinda miss that little *******' wagon.
10-29-19, 11:58 AM
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That's weird/cool that you guys are talking about the MR-S. I've been seriously thinking about buying one for my daughter and playing around with it. Those little cars have HUGE potential and no one seems to know about em. I saw a Best Motoring vid a few months ago with one smoking the entire field of Japanese sports cars. NB Miata price for a mid engine little drop-top sleeper with tons of aftermarket support and a Toyota engine? ..Yep, seriously thinking my kid might be rolling around in one soon.
I can't seem to find that one vid, but here's an MR-S taking care of an M3. EDIT: Hmm, can't insert a vid that's doesn't start from the beginning.
Fast Forward to 5 min 40 sec.
I can't seem to find that one vid, but here's an MR-S taking care of an M3. EDIT: Hmm, can't insert a vid that's doesn't start from the beginning.
Fast Forward to 5 min 40 sec.
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10-30-19, 09:38 AM
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I can tell you that the MR2 Spyder is a fantastic little car. I've had mine for 2 years now and it's been rock solid reliable and the car drives like a go-kart. It has extremely sensitive steering, good brakes, awesome shifter feel, and it's great on gas. The only complaint I have is the lack of a 6th gear for highway cruising. It's really working the engine at highway speeds.
11-09-19, 07:31 PM
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I always wondered about those MR2 Spyder's??? Didn't they dominate their class in SOLO2 ? The same class as the miata and the porsche 914 mid engined? I had a 914. It rode and handled great. But it was slowwwww. And it didn't have that carnal raw feel of lots of power in reserve like my current fb
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11-10-19, 05:32 PM
#36
But that new miata has a motorized top. I just can't stand that. You go to all those weight savings lengths and then us an electric motor and god knows how many cams and rails to move a 5# top. Its retarded. If there was a manual top I'd be more interested.
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11-10-19, 07:10 PM
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Yeah its got a "targa top" Its a 5# piece of metal. And its motorized.
If it was a real coupe PERFECT. If it had a normal targa top that you flipped two latches and toss it in the trunk. cool. BUT NO its got all kinds of extra metal and mechanization to make it a motorized system. For what?!? Why does it have to be motorized.
I think its for the same reason why the C8 had to be automatic only.
If it was a real coupe PERFECT. If it had a normal targa top that you flipped two latches and toss it in the trunk. cool. BUT NO its got all kinds of extra metal and mechanization to make it a motorized system. For what?!? Why does it have to be motorized.
I think its for the same reason why the C8 had to be automatic only.
11-10-19, 09:09 PM
#40
Because more people will buy it that way. I would prefer the top motorless for both weight savings and "less to go wrong" but most people will just think "Boy that's Neat!" and buy it on looks.
Also, It's the best looking sports car Mazda has given the US in 24 years, and it's lighter than a GSL-SE (barely) with 45 more horses. It's a very nice car, just not designed for "purists". But a GS owner might feel the same about an SE, what with it's heavy leather seats, power windows and locks, rear wiper motor, sunroof, AC components... All the stuff I'm glad my car doesn't have.
Also, It's the best looking sports car Mazda has given the US in 24 years, and it's lighter than a GSL-SE (barely) with 45 more horses. It's a very nice car, just not designed for "purists". But a GS owner might feel the same about an SE, what with it's heavy leather seats, power windows and locks, rear wiper motor, sunroof, AC components... All the stuff I'm glad my car doesn't have.
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11-10-19, 09:47 PM
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Because more people will buy it that way. I would prefer the top motorless for both weight savings and "less to go wrong" but most people will just think "Boy that's Neat!" and buy it on looks.
Also, It's the best looking sports car Mazda has given the US in 24 years, and it's lighter than a GSL-SE (barely) with 45 more horses. It's a very nice car, just not designed for "purists". But a GS owner might feel the same about an SE, what with it's heavy leather seats, power windows and locks, rear wiper motor, sunroof, AC components... All the stuff I'm glad my car doesn't have.
Also, It's the best looking sports car Mazda has given the US in 24 years, and it's lighter than a GSL-SE (barely) with 45 more horses. It's a very nice car, just not designed for "purists". But a GS owner might feel the same about an SE, what with it's heavy leather seats, power windows and locks, rear wiper motor, sunroof, AC components... All the stuff I'm glad my car doesn't have.
Same thing happened when the BRZ came out. I mean what was Toyota thinking?!? Why not put that WRX engine in there?
Just another disappointing car.
And we wonder why more and more people are unenthusiastic about transportation. Who killed the car industry... the car industry killed it.
11-11-19, 02:32 AM
#42
I’m a little late to this but will weigh in as I have had both FB and NB cars for street and track. For a daily the FB would be more comfortable. Certainly easier to get in and out of. For a dual purpose, normally aspirated car that is street legal, I would go with the miata as it will get you better lap times with similar prep. And for all out track car, Mike I think you know the answer to that.
11-11-19, 05:53 AM
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acdelco d1906 Nkg 49034
Yeah, you're right, but I also think its because the target market wants automation. Like the C8... For the price tag and INCREADABLE performance I'd buy a C8 (shoot if I REALLY wanted it I'm sure I could squeeze it in my budget); HOWEVER the auto only thing really pisses me off.
Same thing happened when the BRZ came out. I mean what was Toyota thinking?!? Why not put that WRX engine in there?
Just another disappointing car.
And we wonder why more and more people are unenthusiastic about transportation. Who killed the car industry... the car industry killed it.
Same thing happened when the BRZ came out. I mean what was Toyota thinking?!? Why not put that WRX engine in there?
Just another disappointing car.
And we wonder why more and more people are unenthusiastic about transportation. Who killed the car industry... the car industry killed it.
I wonder if, in a year or two, everyone will be bitching about how the C8 is a cheap POS, that falls apart like a lego structure, or a roast cooked at 250F for 6 hours?
11-11-19, 05:59 AM
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I always wondered about those MR2 Spyder's??? Didn't they dominate their class in SOLO2 ? The same class as the miata and the porsche 914 mid engined? I had a 914. It rode and handled great. But it was slowwwww. And it didn't have that carnal raw feel of lots of power in reserve like my current fb
11-11-19, 10:21 AM
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the ND miata is really great, they got all the intangibles right. i didn't get a long drive in one yet, but it felt a lot more like the FD to me
11-11-19, 10:24 AM
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I’m a little late to this but will weigh in as I have had both FB and NB cars for street and track. For a daily the FB would be more comfortable. Certainly easier to get in and out of. For a dual purpose, normally aspirated car that is street legal, I would go with the miata as it will get you better lap times with similar prep. And for all out track car, Mike I think you know the answer to that.
the PTE lap record at laguna was 1:42.9 in an NB miata (the 949 racing guy, Emilio). the 1960's Trans Am cars run ~1:50's, and a 1960's Lemans car runs about 1:45.... so the Miata is fast!
11-11-19, 10:53 AM
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so i took this Rx7 on the ~900 mile round trip to Sevenstock this weekend. once they announced it was the 40th anniversary of the 1st gen, it was an easy choice. i tried to get peepers ready, but ran out of time, and took this thing.
it happily made the trip, and i think i averaged about 23mpg which is the best i've ever had. one tank was 27mpg, although the 4300foot hill helped! (5.55 gallons, 150 miles), it actually runs better now, these engines like to run...
power UP that 4000 foot hill is kind of anemic, and it needs more radiator, the 35 year old one needs a rod out, and the brakes stopped working basically as soon as i left home, its a good thing we don't drive fast enough to really need them!
there is a lot of wind noise, but other than that its quiet and smooth in there, its quite comfortable. i swapped with one of the other guys FD, and it has A/C, and a better seat, but the FB rode better, they have about the same driving position.
for the convoy, Fungus Mungus's car made the trip again, for the 3rd time without incident, which is better than the truck we have used to haul it down in. the FD made it, trouble free. the T2's alternator died, so we ended up trading batteries every couple of hours on the way home.
i fired it up to trade parking spaces with the miata, and it fired right up, the miata fired up and then ran on like 2 cylinders....
it happily made the trip, and i think i averaged about 23mpg which is the best i've ever had. one tank was 27mpg, although the 4300foot hill helped! (5.55 gallons, 150 miles), it actually runs better now, these engines like to run...
power UP that 4000 foot hill is kind of anemic, and it needs more radiator, the 35 year old one needs a rod out, and the brakes stopped working basically as soon as i left home, its a good thing we don't drive fast enough to really need them!
there is a lot of wind noise, but other than that its quiet and smooth in there, its quite comfortable. i swapped with one of the other guys FD, and it has A/C, and a better seat, but the FB rode better, they have about the same driving position.
for the convoy, Fungus Mungus's car made the trip again, for the 3rd time without incident, which is better than the truck we have used to haul it down in. the FD made it, trouble free. the T2's alternator died, so we ended up trading batteries every couple of hours on the way home.
i fired it up to trade parking spaces with the miata, and it fired right up, the miata fired up and then ran on like 2 cylinders....
11-11-19, 11:13 AM
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I don't think anybody will complain; they already know what GM produces outside of the engine bay. But that engine will still run like a raped ape, and that's all that counts. If only you could sling gears.
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11-11-19, 11:16 AM
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if you get the chance to see the 60's trans am cars race, it is awesome, the ground shakes, its total sensory overload, its by far the best class to watch run.
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