Can this be real!

If I had 15k I would be all over this!

Maybe I can sell a Kidney?

http://hartford.craigslist.org/cto/1859753276.html

 

wow I could so dig that would look perfect in the garage next to the sa

 

Yea I like this .

 

Wow! What a find... looks like it's a stock 12A though and not the Turbo model. Too bad.

 

Very nice, but yeah, it needs to turbo

 

Nice, but not worth 15k. Especially today.

 

Wasn't the PO (or one of them) on this forum before?

 

7,800 miles on it? The pictures certainly don't reflect that kind of mileage...





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This one has been up and down here, on ebay and craigslist several times it is a real Pacfic
Avatar. The problem with PAs is they were not designed to last. I have one that has aprox 20k miles on it but if you saw it before we started the resto you would think it had 120k on it. The bodies even though repainted were not done that well. Yea it would last 5-8 years beyond that it would need to be redone. As with any big custom it also had alot of mud in the custom work esp the rear deck which dries, cracks and lifts. All told the PAs are awesome but unless it has had alot of maintaining through the years they take quite a bit to bring back

 

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=...26tbs%3Disch:1

MODERATOR EDIT:

I think you meant this link:
http://www.carpictures.com/photo/vie...LPJ563514332AF

~DF

 

"PACIFIC ADVATAR"?

A "GS GSL /S," huh?

Seriously? $50,000 in 1982 would equate to about $110,000 today, in inflation-adjusted dollars.

You could buy a Lamborghini Jalpa covertible brand new in 1982 for $58,000....



Oh, and those fender vents look like ***.

 

The Car is nice, but it would need at least 10K in updating to be done right.

Needs Modern Paint, Modern Wheels, Modern Interior, New Top, and a fully built 400+ HP Turbo Driveline. Plus I would definately add at least a well designed Roll Bar, maybe more to stiffen up the chassis.

Right now it is stuck in the 80's. And Not stuck in the 80's like a classic stock FB (which is beautiful). But Stuck in the 80's with all the Tacky Colors (Black & Gold with Burgandy Interior? Yuck!) and useless 80's Kitchy items that are there just for looks.

Sad that a perfectly stock FB would smoke this thing in every way, performance wise.

 

i thought the same thing.

 

Same one that was on ebay--it obviously did not sell.

I think it is ratty and I would not want it. The owner can't even spell or do his own research on the car. I would be very afraid of purchasing that car. I think $5k would be a high price for it.

 

I'd maybe go 5k just to rescue the poor thing from it's idiot owner.

 

The seller knows his car it's an Avatar. unless he wrote Advatar then he should be punched.
And they did sell for $45,000 or more brand new...
http://intertron.com/ron/images/rra5.zip

 

link is down. missed this one...

 

He did. He should.

Some did. Probably not this one, though, even before all that fiberglass was stuck all over it.

The car that was in the ad bears little relationship to the car (Avatar ESP) described in the article you posted. The car in the ad had highly-modified bodywork (flares, hood, stupid-looking vents on the front fenders) and didn't have the Avatar's trunk lid - - the read deck was smooth & had no apparent openings.

The leather-wrapped roll bar is also missing. Some home-brew stereo has been slapped in the rear of the cabin.

The vinyl top was also designed differently than the one shown in your article... and doesn't even look like it fits the doors properly, in the below pictures.

Check out the pix of it here:

http://www.carpictures.com/photo/vie...LPJ563514332AF

It also didn't look from the engine bay shots to have been turboed or re-carburetted with a Carter carb, which according to this article, the Avatar ESP was & which was a major part of the $45,000 price. Car in the ad has the stock Mazda air cleaner, and the engine bay looks bone stock from the above pics. And none too well maintained, either.

Nor does it have any "in-dash color television" or "microprocessor-based car command console" as mentioned in the article.

I don't think the original-model non-ESP Avatars sold for any $45k... and the car in the OP's ad clearly was not the $45k Avatar ESP discussed in your article.

I get the feeling that the car in the ad is really just what's left of an early-version 'base' Avatar that has been modded all to hell & thus lost almost any collector value.

 

I'm going to look at a car tomorrow, the guy knows nothing about it, but I think it may be a Pacific Avatar.

How does one identify a PA?

 

Usually there's all sorts of plates and bling stating so. I guess the 1st thing: it's a 1st gen convertible?

 

The easiest way of finding out if it is a real avatar is to look under the carpet in the passenger compartment. boostedrex sold me his avatar although I don't have the pictures posted if you search PA or PA no way or by either of our names it will come up in a thread from about 2 years back he posted the pictures of the special frame/tub reinforcement that was unique to PAs it runs as a piece of bent sheet iron near the rocker panel in the passenger compartment. If my memory is right you should be able to see the bolts holding it in place through the floor on the underside of the car. The special PA badge may or may not still be there it was basically an engraved plate similar to what a trophy shop makes.

 

Yea, an '84. He doesn't even know if it is an SE.


Where is the ID plate located?

The guy is not eben picking up the phone today, so don't know if I'll get to see the car.

 

I don't know on an 84 where it would be it was on the radio panel on the 83

 

It could be an "Ultima" Rx-7...quite a few companies had a go at turning the Rx-7 into a convertible back in the day.

This is an Ultima:



This is a Pacific Avatar:

 

Going over my notes just now I read that they used an Avatar in the film "Smokey Bites The Dust".

So.....I just bought a copy off eBay for $9 to see if it's true!!!