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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 07:34 PM
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I contacted Mazda for some answers about my Rx7... To no surprise they are NO help at all.. for grins I posted my email conversation with Mazda below.

Anyone have possibly a Carfax account or something? I am out of work at the moment and very busy making some panels for my car and was really wondering what I seem to have here...

Any help is appreciated!

[[Emails start below! Remember Newest to oldest, so go to the bottom and read up ]]

Hello Austin,



We were able to identify the VIN number you provided. However, due to the age of the vehicle, we we’re only able to identify limited information. The trim information for your vehicle was not available. I’ve listed the information that we were able to retrieve below.



1984 Mazda RX-7 Hatchback Coupe

5 Speed Manual Transmission

Exterior Color Code: H1

Sold at: Gorman-McCracken Mazda



Again, thank you for contacting Mazda.



Regards,



John C.

Customer Assistance Specialist, E-Business



---- Original Message ----
From : Austin E
To : MazdaCustomerAssistance@mazdausa.com
Subject : Re: Ownership & Maintenance - Other [INTR:421270]
Date : Wed, 06 Oct 2010 00:40:28 GMT


John,
That is highly unusual sir. I have the window sticker and the sales receipt from the dealership here in Texas that sold the car new. VIN# JM1FB3311E0802140. Year Model 1984, Accessories shown on sales slip are "ESP" and "Stripes". Dealership that sold the car new was:
Gorman-McCracken VW, Inc.HWY 259 South, Longview Tx, 75601. Dealer stock # 70997.

I have the Manuals, booklets, and AC warranty from the car when it was new. Perhaps you can check again?

Thank you,
Austin


From: "MazdaCustomerAssistance@mazdausa.com" <MazdaCustomerAssistance@mazdausa.com>
To: Anubis_racingFC@yahoo.com
Sent: Tue, October 5, 2010 6:50:29 PM
Subject: RE: Ownership & Maintenance - Other [INTR:421270]

Hello Austin,

Thanks for contacting Mazda.

We are attempting to verify your Mazda model and trim style. The VIN number you provided is not being recognized in our system. We would only have information available on vehicles that were sold in North America, not vehicle that were possibly imported from different areas of the world. Please confirm that the VIN number you provided, JM1FB3311E0802140, matches the vehicle’s VIN.

Again, thank you for contacting Mazda.

Regards,

John C.
Customer Assistance Specialist, E-Business



> ---- Original Message ----
> From : Anubis_racingFC@yahoo.com
> To : MazdaCustomerAssistance@mazdausa.com
> Subject : Ownership
& Maintenance - Other
> Date : Mon, 04 Oct 2010 01:18:38 GMT
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>
> I wanted to know if Mazda could tell me what trim level my 1984 Rx7. It has no badges, and many strange options. It has NO sunroof (hardtop NON targa...), digital quartz clock, no power locks or windows. Disc front brakes, drum rear, 13x5 aluminum wheels. 4 Speaker stereo, air conditioning, 3 spoke Mazda steering wheel. The VIN# is the only thing I am sure of. I have found the same VIN on 5 places on the car. Any and all help with it's history would be fantastic. I would like to restore it to it's factory correct trim level and badges etc.
> -Austin
> Watauga, Tx
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 08:15 PM
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ESP would be "Extended service Program," is my bet.

Your build level looks to be an S model, based on your discription of it.

Got pix?
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 10:41 PM
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There is a sneaky way of getting free carfax's using Ebay and not being charged...
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Old Oct 8, 2010 | 10:53 PM
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Old Oct 9, 2010 | 06:46 PM
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CarFax wont show the trim level. The trim level was not part of the VIN (other then 12A vs 13B)
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Old Oct 9, 2010 | 06:59 PM
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1. i hate to be obvious, but if you have the window sticker, don't you know the trim level?

2. it is actually the SELLING dealerships job to inform MAZDA of the selling date, key number, options etc etc on the car. so its actually gorman-mcracken mazda's fault for not inputting the correct information.

its a weird system, and i have no clue why it was done that way. remember up until the LATE 90's this was done by hand, and snail mail.

which also means that for cars this old the paper records were put on computer at some point.

carfax also doesn't work on cars this old, it'll be blank, but that does not mean it wasn't stolen or wrecked, it just means there is no record, because there won't be one, because its too old
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Old Oct 9, 2010 | 07:03 PM
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Do you have electric mirrors, fuel door and hatch release? If so, then it's most likely a GS. With manual mirrors, it would be an S model for certain.
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Old Oct 9, 2010 | 09:54 PM
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I have the window sticker but its so damned faded from being in the floorboard for about 10 years out in the woods... I can't read much other than ESP and STRIPES, etc. etc. etc.

So, I promise the obvious does not elude me...

Good point on the recording process. you are correct, however, Gorman McCracken won't return my calls... ugh.

It has Manual mirrors,

Well, I will just call it an S model and be done with it.

thanks,
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Old Oct 9, 2010 | 09:58 PM
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Old Oct 9, 2010 | 10:16 PM
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Originally Posted by trochoid
Do you have electric mirrors, fuel door and hatch release? If so, then it's most likely a GS. With manual mirrors, it would be an S model for certain.
This always confuses me because as far as I can tell, DallasFC and I have the same model. Manual mirrors, electric hatch and fuel release, but I had an automatic transmission.
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Old Oct 10, 2010 | 12:15 PM
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Pretty sure they all had electric hatch release; leastwise I've never seen one without it.
Manual mirrors, cloth interior, and no sunroof to me says "S" model, but I'm not a deep expert on anything past SAs.
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Originally Posted by DallasFC1
Good point on the recording process. you are correct, however, Gorman McCracken won't return my calls... ugh.

It has Manual mirrors,

Well, I will just call it an S model and be done with it.

thanks,
i doubt the dealer would have paper work that far back, we cleaned almaden out once, but i forget how far back it went, might be like 5-6 years?

but yeah, in 84-85 manual mirrors = S model. it should also be missing the map light, and the trunk light.

i just pulled out the 84 brochure and the + wheels are an option on the S, along with the radio (ive NEVER seen one without a radio), and A/C

automatic trans is not an option on the S model....

sticker should be $10,100ish
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Old Oct 10, 2010 | 09:19 PM
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This rx7 of mine was sold for; $12,695.00 new.

I will just call it an S model but it drives me nuts not knowing what the history of this car was. What can I say, I just like to know things like that... So i guess I will go cough up some cash at the DMV and get past registration information on the car and see where that leads me

Thanks for your input guys!
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Old Oct 10, 2010 | 10:52 PM
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its most definatly an S model. H1 is the color code which indicates that it was originally sparkling black metallic. in 84, the options for the S were:
-aluminum wheels
-cruise control
-power antenna
-various stereo upgrades
-a/c

the GS included these standard items that the S was NOT available with:

-halogen headlights
-tinted upper windshield band
-power mirrors
-remote hatch release
-driver's side foot rest
-illuminated ignition key hole
-map light
-cargo area light
-illuminated driver's door lock
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Originally Posted by DallasFC1
This rx7 of mine was sold for; $12,695.00 new.

I will just call it an S model but it drives me nuts not knowing what the history of this car was. What can I say, I just like to know things like that... So i guess I will go cough up some cash at the DMV and get past registration information on the car and see where that leads me

Thanks for your input guys!
What information are you going to get from the DMV? I thought due to the privacy laws that you couldn't get jack from them anymore. If you've got a way to get prior owners I would be greatly interested as I want to contact mine for info about the worked over 13B in mine as well as trying to get a title.
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