Rear suspension continuing..
03-29-07, 09:51 AM
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Rear suspension continuing..
Just replaced pillow ball bushings. With this instructions http://www.clubrx.org/default.asp?id...ntent=32&mnu=5
it took me little less then 4 hours. Including cleaning components and going slowly. I didn't use impact to assemble suspension, just to take it out.
Clunks gone. But I still have some play and it looks like toe links.
Have few questions:
Car has 72k on a body
1. Pillow ball at the lower arm(where 2 pillow ***** go) to body connection seem to be loose but no play. Is it common replacement item? It's big pillow ball.
2. Toe links. Are bushing serviceable? How much they go for? I don't want aftermarket.
3. Is there anything else in a rear that might require attention?
Everything else seems to be solid in a rear.
it took me little less then 4 hours. Including cleaning components and going slowly. I didn't use impact to assemble suspension, just to take it out.
Clunks gone. But I still have some play and it looks like toe links.
Have few questions:
Car has 72k on a body
1. Pillow ball at the lower arm(where 2 pillow ***** go) to body connection seem to be loose but no play. Is it common replacement item? It's big pillow ball.
2. Toe links. Are bushing serviceable? How much they go for? I don't want aftermarket.
3. Is there anything else in a rear that might require attention?
Everything else seems to be solid in a rear.
03-29-07, 10:08 AM
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No impact? Damn....that has gotta suck.
I have an electric impact...but it is the cheap one from Harbor Freight. I've been told that it doesn't produce enough torque to remove/pop the lug nuts, so I've been hesitant to use it on removing suspension components.
Sorry I can't answer your questions, but good luck. Will keep an eye on this thread as it has useful info.
I have an electric impact...but it is the cheap one from Harbor Freight. I've been told that it doesn't produce enough torque to remove/pop the lug nuts, so I've been hesitant to use it on removing suspension components.
Sorry I can't answer your questions, but good luck. Will keep an eye on this thread as it has useful info.
03-29-07, 10:15 AM
#3
Originally Posted by DomFD3S
No impact? Damn....that has gotta suck.
Quick search revealed that toe link bushings go for $55ea.
Longtitudal arms (spell?) have 1 bushing and they not replaceable.
It seems that I need only toe link bushings and maybe bigger pillow ***** for lower arms where they mount to subframe. Rubber bushings seem to be good.
03-29-07, 11:31 AM
#4
Originally Posted by katit
Just replaced pillow ball bushings. With this instructions http://www.clubrx.org/default.asp?id...ntent=32&mnu=5
it took me little less then 4 hours. Including cleaning components and going slowly. I didn't use impact to assemble suspension, just to take it out.
Clunks gone. But I still have some play and it looks like toe links.
Have few questions:
Car has 72k on a body
1. Pillow ball at the lower arm(where 2 pillow ***** go) to body connection seem to be loose but no play. Is it common replacement item? It's big pillow ball.
2. Toe links. Are bushing serviceable? How much they go for? I don't want aftermarket.
3. Is there anything else in a rear that might require attention?
Everything else seems to be solid in a rear.
it took me little less then 4 hours. Including cleaning components and going slowly. I didn't use impact to assemble suspension, just to take it out.
Clunks gone. But I still have some play and it looks like toe links.
Have few questions:
Car has 72k on a body
1. Pillow ball at the lower arm(where 2 pillow ***** go) to body connection seem to be loose but no play. Is it common replacement item? It's big pillow ball.
2. Toe links. Are bushing serviceable? How much they go for? I don't want aftermarket.
3. Is there anything else in a rear that might require attention?
Everything else seems to be solid in a rear.
I have a set of new mazda toe link bushings for sale, pm me for info.
The trailing arm has a bushing in front that can go bad. Check to see that this bushing is secure.
The trailing arms, toe links, and pillowballs are the big items in the suspension. Sort of related but worth checking out is the differential mount bushings. If these are torn or leaking the fluid filling, they should be changed.
Dave
03-29-07, 01:45 PM
#5
On related note.. When I drive steady and let of gas/accelerate I get movement in driveline (shift stick moves)
Is it somewhat normal or some other bushings responsible for that? It's not bad to the point where it bangs, but I can feel it.
Is it somewhat normal or some other bushings responsible for that? It's not bad to the point where it bangs, but I can feel it.
03-29-07, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by dgeesaman
The toe links are bushing on the small end and a combination pillowball and bushing on the large end.
DaveW
03-29-07, 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by katit
On related note.. When I drive steady and let of gas/accelerate I get movement in driveline (shift stick moves)
Is it somewhat normal or some other bushings responsible for that? It's not bad to the point where it bangs, but I can feel it.
Is it somewhat normal or some other bushings responsible for that? It's not bad to the point where it bangs, but I can feel it.
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03-29-07, 02:51 PM
#11
Originally Posted by katit
So, you say there should be absolutely NO movement/slack in drivetrain?
Large movements often point to worn diff bushings b/c it allows more driveline twist. Worn motor mounts will also allow more drivetrain twist but you'll feel and see the motor shaking and vibrating if the motor mounts are worn.
03-29-07, 05:09 PM
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If you don't have your hand on the shifter and you see it move more than a fraction of an inch (which isn't all that noticeable) I'd say you should look for excessive play in the diff or motor mounts or PPF.
Yes, driveline windup and gear play is normal with all cars, but it won't cause the shifter to move left/right as you load or unload it. I think folks with bad mounts or ppfs notice the shift **** moving an inch or more from the looseness.
Dave
Yes, driveline windup and gear play is normal with all cars, but it won't cause the shifter to move left/right as you load or unload it. I think folks with bad mounts or ppfs notice the shift **** moving an inch or more from the looseness.
Dave
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03-29-07, 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by dgeesaman
If you don't have your hand on the shifter and you see it move more than a fraction of an inch (which isn't all that noticeable) I'd say you should look for excessive play in the diff or motor mounts or PPF.
03-31-07, 12:54 PM
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Another question about trailing arm bushings. Those looks worn also. From searching here I figured that Mazda don't sell those bushings. So, I have few choices:
1. Mazdaspeed bushings
2. Nylon bushings
3. Aftermarket arms
I prefer to stay with #1. Anybody know where to buy them? All posts about buying them were from 2005..
1. Mazdaspeed bushings
2. Nylon bushings
3. Aftermarket arms
I prefer to stay with #1. Anybody know where to buy them? All posts about buying them were from 2005..
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