Non-Seq Help.. PROS please..
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Non-Seq Help.. PROS please..
Sup guys...
just finished doing non-seq on my car and well run into a couple of problems.
#1. i'm running the base map on a PFC
#2. when i started the car up the 1st time it ran like a champ at 800rpms for a little bit then i started hearing some sounds.
#3. sounds seem like they are coming from the turbo area..
#4. I smell fuel coming from under the UIM.. so i'm sure some injectors aren't seated right or something.. The FPD is brand new as well.
Now the car doesn't want to idle on its own at all.. and has problems starting.. like its flooded.. also as well, the watertemp doesn't show any change, its hooked up to the sensor, but the temp guage goes to op temp..
any one have any ideas..??
just finished doing non-seq on my car and well run into a couple of problems.
#1. i'm running the base map on a PFC
#2. when i started the car up the 1st time it ran like a champ at 800rpms for a little bit then i started hearing some sounds.
#3. sounds seem like they are coming from the turbo area..
#4. I smell fuel coming from under the UIM.. so i'm sure some injectors aren't seated right or something.. The FPD is brand new as well.
Now the car doesn't want to idle on its own at all.. and has problems starting.. like its flooded.. also as well, the watertemp doesn't show any change, its hooked up to the sensor, but the temp guage goes to op temp..
any one have any ideas..??
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I don't think it's blown at all.
2. What kind of sounds?
3. Where in the turbo area?
4. But you didn't mess with the injectors right? Purge Control Solenoid Valve (EVAP) still present?
5. What smog equipment did you remove?
#2. when i started the car up the 1st time it ran like a champ at 800rpms for a little bit then i started hearing some sounds.
#3. sounds seem like they are coming from the turbo area..
#4. I smell fuel coming from under the UIM.. so i'm sure some injectors aren't seated right or something.. The FPD is brand new as well.
#3. sounds seem like they are coming from the turbo area..
#4. I smell fuel coming from under the UIM.. so i'm sure some injectors aren't seated right or something.. The FPD is brand new as well.
3. Where in the turbo area?
4. But you didn't mess with the injectors right? Purge Control Solenoid Valve (EVAP) still present?
5. What smog equipment did you remove?
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can't see anything coming off the dp or anything.. checked around it.. no black soot or anything suggesting an exhaust leak... its something i've looked into but haven't found any evidence of yet. i will do a compression test here in a few.. if its blown, i have no idea how.. since it was just started up and idled.... not even driven!
i will also change out the spark plugs if compression is OK. rebuilding engines is a pain in the ***.. but hey... love is love...
i will also change out the spark plugs if compression is OK. rebuilding engines is a pain in the ***.. but hey... love is love...
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Originally posted by clayne
There's really no reason for it to be a blown engine here.
Do you still have the ISC?
There's really no reason for it to be a blown engine here.
Do you still have the ISC?
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Good point.
TT, verify map sensor is connected to intake manifold on the rear edge of the manifold by where it meets the TB.
Also verify electrical connection.
When the clicking happens, disconnect ISC to see if that stops the sound (for troubleshooting process right now).
Were o-rings replaced when doing any of the injector work?
TT, verify map sensor is connected to intake manifold on the rear edge of the manifold by where it meets the TB.
Also verify electrical connection.
When the clicking happens, disconnect ISC to see if that stops the sound (for troubleshooting process right now).
Were o-rings replaced when doing any of the injector work?
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the injectors were never pulled from the rails.. just the rail was lifted off the LIM and the FPD was replaced. The MAP sensor is on.. thats an obvious one but i pulled the L plug on the 2 rotor and its like cake black.. nasty hardened black soot.. Sounds like fouled plugs..
but that doesn't explain the fuel smell unless the engine was flooding and i was smelling fuel coming up out of the engine? i'll update you guys with a compression test here within the hour.. i appreciate all the help thus far.
but that doesn't explain the fuel smell unless the engine was flooding and i was smelling fuel coming up out of the engine? i'll update you guys with a compression test here within the hour.. i appreciate all the help thus far.
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I would guess the ticking near the turbos to be an exhaust leak. If you cut out the TCA door and welded in the hole on the bottom of the manifold, look there. Also, did you torque the exhaust manifold on good? Did you use new exhaust gaskets?
Ok, the fuel, are the little rubber insulators in the LIM where the injectors go? If not, there is a big problem.
Also, you said the coolant sensor is not reading anything. Are you looking in the sensor menu on the PFC? If it is the main coolant temp sensor, then (depending on the PFC's failsafe) that could be making your car run really rich. My coolant temp sensor went bad, and on a stock ecu (runs fuel for the car being warmed up if the sensor is bad) the car wouldn't start without some ether in the intake. When I put the AEM in (before I changed the sensor) the car ran super rich all the time (as though the car were always cold). I would get a new sensor if it is bad, because that will make your car run poorly, more than likely.
Ok, the fuel, are the little rubber insulators in the LIM where the injectors go? If not, there is a big problem.
Also, you said the coolant sensor is not reading anything. Are you looking in the sensor menu on the PFC? If it is the main coolant temp sensor, then (depending on the PFC's failsafe) that could be making your car run really rich. My coolant temp sensor went bad, and on a stock ecu (runs fuel for the car being warmed up if the sensor is bad) the car wouldn't start without some ether in the intake. When I put the AEM in (before I changed the sensor) the car ran super rich all the time (as though the car were always cold). I would get a new sensor if it is bad, because that will make your car run poorly, more than likely.
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the FPR is hooked up correctly. I know that my primary injectors are leaking.. need to replace the insulators that go on the bottom.. can hear and smell the leak.
Compression tested out A-OK i'm glad to report. The Leading plugs were nasty and black charred.. totally wasted. Put some newer used plugs in it and it will hold idle much better..
The water thermosensor is fine.. its just so cold it didn't seem like it wanted to move.
The MOP on the other hand has no voltage and does not work... its all hooked up, but the PFC reads 0.00v on it and has it highlighted?? Anyone?
This time around didn't hear or see any exhaust leaks..so everything is seated. Everything was replaced and torqued to mazda manual spec with a torque wrench.
So i'll let you guys know what happens after i get those insulators in.
Thanks any other input is greatly appreciated.
Compression tested out A-OK i'm glad to report. The Leading plugs were nasty and black charred.. totally wasted. Put some newer used plugs in it and it will hold idle much better..
The water thermosensor is fine.. its just so cold it didn't seem like it wanted to move.
The MOP on the other hand has no voltage and does not work... its all hooked up, but the PFC reads 0.00v on it and has it highlighted?? Anyone?
This time around didn't hear or see any exhaust leaks..so everything is seated. Everything was replaced and torqued to mazda manual spec with a torque wrench.
So i'll let you guys know what happens after i get those insulators in.
Thanks any other input is greatly appreciated.