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Old 02-13-04, 07:47 AM
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26B 4-rotor

I saw a thread recently about a guy who put a 4 rotor 26B in his FD. It sounded incredible! I was so inspired that I went around looking for any info I could find on the 26B, but not much luck. Does anyone know of a company that makes this engine? Is it even street legal? I want one so bad it hurts, but I'm sure it would hurt my bank account too if I was actually able to find one.
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Re: 26B 4-rotor

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but I'm sure it would hurt my bank account too if I was actually able to find one.
uhhhhh r u serious? your looking at well over 30k in fabricating custom parts to make it fit and work.....probably more like 50k (assuming a 3rotor costs around 15k-almost50k to put in, it would likely cost even more, but idk for sure)
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I plan on making this more of a project car than a daily driver. I don't plan on getting everything at once.
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a true 26B is around $150k just for the block

mazda will make you one for that much ;-)
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wow, that is insane.
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What about making my own, by buying seperate peices like rotor housings, etc. and building it myself. This might take alot of time seeing as nobody probably has a kit out there for me.
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If anyone can do it, these guys can.

www.kiwi-re.com

If not, I know where youcan get one for ~$100k.

I guess this is another one of those threads.....
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Originally posted by r71
If anyone can do it, these guys can.

www.kiwi-re.com

If not, I know where youcan get one for ~$100k.

I guess this is another one of those threads.....
That's a ridiculous price.
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You're in ATL.. Jim Downing has more 4 rotor engines than Mazda do.. I was told block is about 100+K. Are you going to turbo charge it?? you are looking at some serious cash.. And tuning.. Hmm.. that would be interesting..
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kiwi-re can make you a bastard 4-rotor 13B...but not a 26B

there are so many details that make a 26B different from a 13B...like standard dry sump, the cooling system, the custom rotor housings (with two trailing plugs, one leading)

etc etc, to get a true 26B from mazda, it's more than you can afford...they only sell to known customers, like rick engman- that they've been doing business with for over 20years...you can't just call mazda north america and ask for a 26B...you have to know who to call

stick to a 20B...when and IF, you get bored with that...start saving that money
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I'd hate to see what happens when a seal goes in one of those puppies....I know that scoot makes a 4 rotor, which fits in the 7 as well. I doubt it costs that much.
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Good advise, There's no way I can afford 100k for a motor. I was going to go with the 20b, but I couldn't resist the thought of having a monster like a 26b. Could a 4 rotor 13b even fit in an FD?
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I read an atricle in the Feb issue of Turbo about a guy in Aus. with a 26B twin turbo in his 325I BMW. It was a pretty sweet setup, the only thing is...the car is pink.
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yes, it can...but not cheaply, you'll spend a good $2500-$3000 on a subframe to hold the four rotor, then you need a custom interior for the shifter to be in the right location

scoot's is built off a 12A....aka, really small, and they adjusted the timing of the rotors to make it sound wicked...and they make up for the size of the motor with a huge turbo, mostly show on that car, but no doubt...sounds good
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Actually that's pretty funny can you imagine some bad *** ride getting smoked by a pink BMW. That's probably why he did it. haha!
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What rotors are usually used in a 20b, 13b rotors?
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same rotors are in a 20B i believe

but not in the 26B...the combustion surface in a 26B is shaped to favor one side more than the other....

some of the 26B stuff also has double side seals and anywhere from 2mm-5mm apex seals, depending on how it is ordered and what it is designed for
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So turbocharged 20b wouldn't to bad at all then, and since I refuse to sell my house so I can buy a 26b it sounds even better to look into a 3 rotor. But, along with engine management upgrades and motor mounts what else should I set aside some cash for? Would a 20b hook up to a stock tranny?
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I have a short clip of that BMW revving its engine..it sounds...
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Originally posted by BuffDaddy915
95R2-89TII Ground Zero

I have a short clip of that BMW revving its engine..it sounds...
post it
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26b motor

You guys are missing the point of this car 1.3 liter two turbos. a crap load of power. tweak the 13b and it can make over 1000 hp before you spend the same amount of money on a big motor if you want a big motor put a chevy 350 in your car. remember hp to weight ratio.....
it's great to smoke a car that has 4 times the liters of your little 1.3 liter motor.
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For these prices, who really cares? It's not like hardly anyone on this forum can afford to do it. I hope this doesn't become the 'post of the week' topic now. There's numerous 4 rotor posts floating around already..
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tweak the 13b and it can make over 1000 hp
That's gotta be some serious 'tweaking' to make 1000hp
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This car is on it's third 13b engine I'm not exactly sure I want to burn this one up too. If I were to do everything I wanted to on this car the engine would be under considerable stress. Not only do I want power but also reliability. Can I have both with a 13b?
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Originally posted by bricke
For these prices, who really cares? It's not like hardly anyone on this forum can afford to do it. I hope this doesn't become the 'post of the week' topic now. There's numerous 4 rotor posts floating around already..
Yeah, I see what your saying but this thread isn't asking how much hp it has, or what would happen if a 4 rotor 7 raced a ferrari. I am looking to seriously upgrade the car I actually own, and just wanted some expertise. Sorry, I didn't intend for this to be a waste of space.


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