ive always been against them since ive known many people who have owned knock offs and have broken on them or pealed. XXRs, Rota, ADRs.

also the fact that its not classy.

 

Imo its not in everyone's budget who can afford to buy expensive wheels,but i would not rock them.

 

well then why be in the car lifestyle when there is more important stuff to worry about then wasting money on fake wheels?

 

being into the car scene or lifestyle is not just about having nice expensive wheels,theres better things to spend money on besides that.no examples needed.

 

My money is going into the car itself and unfortunately my car came with Rota wheels. Not a fan but I'd rather spend that money on the car's needs than replace the rims.

I live in Honda central here, more like ricer central, and Rota's are everywhere here. Can't wait to upgrade, I'm sure to find a buyer right away for my current set lol

 

well as of now, i dont have the luxury to own a nice wheels,
but hell i love mine!

 

I've been wanting to "rant" about these "fake" wheels for sometime now....glad this thread was made.



I have owned many sets of wheels in my life, RE-A, BBS, Advans, Volks, Wedsports, ALT, XXR, Varrstoen, etc...


Being part of a professional Formula D team who is currently using XXR wheels, I have experienced first hand what qualities are involved with both "fake" and "real" wheels....it all comes down to how you drive.

We have destroyed Enkei wheels by simply dropping a wheel out of the course. We exploded XXRs by hitting a wall. In the end, if you do any thing to jeopardize the integrity of a wheel, even a $2,000 BBS 3 pc. wheel is going to break, crack, bend, and eventually become useless. Just because it costs less money to cast a wheel overseas doesnt mean its gonna break to pieces all of a sudden on a trip to the store. It doesnt mean that you need to fear for your life.

The only thing I can justify about brand name wheels is that they have better selections, styles, and sizes. I can think of a few "knock off" companies that make wheels that are really appealing and being sold in mass quantities.

So if you drive like a moron, and you dont avoid those awesome potholes, curbs, rocks, etc...expect any wheel to get seriously damaged or broken.

What my rant being written, I ask you this:


If XXR or Rota started making nice 2/3 pc wheels, would you still think they are garbage?

 

I agree with this. Car scene should be a passion, take the time to sort out quality parts, if you cant afford the expensive stuff, than just wait it out and save up, buy used.

I posted this in defense on another forum
I won't call XXR a knock off, they always had their own original designs, they are inexpensive wheels, but not knock off imo. Ive told me to get XXR

 

True dat!
Nothing wrong with cheap rims. I'd rather break a cheap rim than an expensive one. The only thing I really care about when considering which rim is the weight. But I'm not going to spend and extra $2k to save 2 lbs.

 

Fake wheels are heavier, not as strong, and just cheaply built. For example the XXR 002? I think have plastic fake rivets as part of the design...yeah that's stupid. The 009? Or something has a chrome TAPE lip...yeah pass.

When looking for wheels I consider whether they're forged, how heavy they are, design, etc. Bang for your buck I'd go with FN01RC. They're lightweight, strong, cheap, and look good.

 

+1 with smog.

 

You get what you pay for. The disclaimer is that what you pay for sometimes includes paying for branding.

I don't rock wheels of unknown quality on a car that will be driven in anger. The consequences of a failure at speed are simply too high. That said, is your average dumped miata on stretched tires really intended to be driven in anger? I say no, most of them might as well be a low riders because clearly the build was aimed at form and not function. Rubbing tires doesn't not an effective suspension make.

As to the drifting example: drifting is a bit of an anomoly because they're judged on form while going quickly (if not fast, at least relative to what any corner can theoretically support).

If you need something cheap at least go for service proven by the track day hounds (e.g. mustang wheels...) Service proven combined with cheap usually means a tad heavy, but you can't have it all.

 

My buddy once told me that an Elise with some ADR's actually had its face separate from the barrel at a auto-x event. But its not like there aren't good wheels out there that aren't affordable. I'm also a brand ***** which is why I bought a set of RE-30's. Other than the fact that the wheels look great, super light, and are stronger than most of the other wheels in the VR forged monoblock series. I got the wheels at a great price but I was hurting for a while.

 

I'm not jumping on you personally, but this is the sentiment of most of these threads.
I didn't realize the 'car lifestyle' requires everyone to buy the best of everything. Especially when 'best' is such a subjective criteria.
HKS Intercooler? Nope? You're out.
BNR Stage 4? Sorry, isn't a GT35R ball bearing turbo with custom manifold. Out.
Non-titanium exhaust? Scrap it.
Rebuilt engine using brand new OEM series 6 housings with more efficient coatings? Sorry, it's junk.
Are your tires RA1's heat cycled and shaved to 3/32nd's?
On a larger scale, Porsche wouldn't produce anything except for 911 turbo GT2's because they aren't good enough.

I have great admiration for premium parts *that function* but I'm not going to look down on someone for spending more on something when I've decided it's not what I need. So why is the opposite true?

Now if somebody complains that their cheap parts don't perform in a way they were never intended (i.e. taking a set of dayton wire wheels to go drifting), that's their own fault.
/rant

 

http://youtu.be/BJeFB6SRslk

 

its more about passion and quality behind a build with brand name stuff, sure its not for everyone , but it is just way more exciting.

Think this would be as exciting/sexy with godspeed parts and XXR 962? no way
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhndkjCir6k

If you grew up around cars your whole life, your gonna have much more appreciation for the legit stuff.. It takes passion, time and money to go that route and it shows.

 

I'm not a fan of replica/knock off wheels at all. Some people may not be able to afford them and that's ok. Just don't try and pass them off with stickers to make them look real. That's a double fail

 

My opinion is if you can afford a nice set of works by all means drop that money ,but if you are dead broke cant even afford gas and all you can afford is rotas then get them its your money and you have to look at them .

I am so tired of the ......Oooo you have fake wheels threads if they bother you so much buy the kid some works .

 

I would only rock Rota wheels, because cheap wheels are the style right now. You guys are just too ignorant to understand.

 

rims are one of the most important items on your car. fake wheels are dangerous. ive found some knock offs to looks clean but why risk it? i can see why people get fake kits and fake seats since real stuff is crazy expensive. i probably feel this way due to the fact that ive witnessed many knock offs give out on road potholes and mountain runs.

 

PM me for address to send a set of equip's. Silver please. There is a difference between "all I can afford are rota's" and "these rota's are mad JDM tyte yo" mentalities. One is someone that has evaluated their options and the other is just ignorant. Don't group the two together.

That video shows that the stronger, more expensive wheels are better. Big surprise. If you plan on sliding into curbs at 30 mph regularly, then yes, get name brand forged wheels. If that happened to me, I would rather swap the broken wheel than a bent suspension after an accident.

 

I can honestly give a flying f*** what people are throwing on their cars. People know they are buying fake wheels and that there is a possibility damage may occur. That doesn't effect me at all...I buy nothing but real authentic parts that are hard to find in that states, you don't....whatever floats your boat.


These threads are on every forum and are never ending.....................

 

That is exactly my point. Priorities! If you have a no expense car that actually gets driven, please raise your hand! My hands are on my keyboard. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

You spend every second in the seat while driving (hopefully), why wouldn't you get a real one. And cheap knockoff seats can fail during an accident. That's why they need certification. Is that a completely different situation from buying a cheap wheel that can fail when abused?

 

Nooooooo!

 

i would get some used authentic wheels, since some of them are close to the price of brand new knockoff wheels

should try http://www.vrwheels.com/