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Old Oct 6, 2012 | 06:33 PM
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Gas prices

Thank you so much, dear California Air Resources Board.

Gas I was paying $4.05 a gallon for last week is now priced at $4.75 this AM.
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Old Oct 7, 2012 | 12:34 AM
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Lucky the first digit isn't a 5 yet. You think the prices will return to $4 when winter blend kicks-in on Nov 1? Holding my breath for that.
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Old Oct 7, 2012 | 12:50 AM
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It's all about the refineries being fully operational. It's always about the refineries. How about we all pool our money and build our own refinery.
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Old Oct 7, 2012 | 01:56 AM
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I pumped 87 octane @ 4.69 tOday last week at 4.09 ain't that a b
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Old Oct 7, 2012 | 09:17 AM
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I thought I had it bad in CA. Now that I'm in Japan, I wish I had CA gas prices :/
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Old Oct 7, 2012 | 09:32 AM
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Thank goodness the world economy is in the tank. Otherwise $5/gallon would be cheap.
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Old Oct 7, 2012 | 10:18 AM
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Glad im 5 minutes from work and i get to go home for lunch everyday......for the past 20 years LMAO
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Old Oct 7, 2012 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by R3AL.CH1CK3N
I thought I had it bad in CA. Now that I'm in Japan, I wish I had CA gas prices :/
true. alot of other countries pay wayyy more... but us americans like stuff cheap, otherwise we complain. well my 7's been down for a month and i work 2 minutes away, so havent had to buy gas for a month.
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Old Oct 7, 2012 | 11:40 AM
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Originally Posted by HOZZMANRX7
It's all about the refineries being fully operational. It's always about the refineries. How about we all pool our money and build our own refinery.
Problem is, with our state mandate for CA-specific fuel formulations, there's no backstop for supply interruptions here. If we used the same gas that NV or AZ uses, for example, we could patch over supply disruptions by tankering in fuel. Or we could be on a shared piping system like much of the rest of the country is.

It would also mean our overall price would be lower, since wholesalers would be able to buy competitively. As things are, there's no real market pressure for the CA-specific producers to get prices down.

For that matter the state gov't could issue waivers to temporarily allow out-of-state fuel, or even to allow the switchover to winter fuel in SoCal early - - which would dramatically ease these price bumps. They have refused to do so thus far.

Gas price in Japan has nothing to do with prices here. Japan has to import all its petroleum; we don't. It's not a matter of 'liking things cheaper' - - I'm sure the Japanese would greatly enjoy less-expensive gasoline, as would any rational person.
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Old Oct 8, 2012 | 12:06 AM
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$4.84 this morning.
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Old Oct 8, 2012 | 12:24 AM
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Gov Brown just authorized winter blend starting immediately.

Now time for the gas stations to rake in some profits as they keep the prices propped up as long as they can.
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Old Oct 8, 2012 | 12:33 AM
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Cool. Finally something to like about Gov. Brown.
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Old Oct 8, 2012 | 09:43 AM
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Nice of him to finally get off his ***, four days late. Good thing it wasn't something really important.
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Old Oct 8, 2012 | 09:46 AM
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Old Oct 8, 2012 | 02:56 PM
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maybe i should finally start diagnosing why my fuel milage is so bad. oh wait, nvm, i drive a rotary :p 14 mpg ftw
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Old Oct 8, 2012 | 04:42 PM
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damn.. I have to fill up this evening.. only bright side is it's the Honda that needs gas...
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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 10:47 AM
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Still haven't seen any price drop at the local pumps.
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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 11:24 AM
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OC Register is claiming we should see some falloff by mid-week.

Analysts see gas prices falling by midweek | prices, california - News - The Orange County Register

The rise of Orange County gas prices appeared to have slowed Monday, and analysts saw welcome signs that prices would begin dropping by the middle of the week.

California pollution regulators took the almost-unprecedented step of allowing a cheaper blend of gasoline onto the market earlier than usual in an effort to cut pump prices. Sen. Dianne Feinstein called for a federal investigation into whether "malicious trading schemes" had helped launch prices skyward. Sen. Barbara Boxer late Monday asked for a probe of refinery maintenance issues.
Of course, the government types do not want to address that it is California's ridiculously tight fuel standards that created both the problem, and the potential for market manipulation that occurs whenever you eliminate competitive pressures by creating a captive market.
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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 11:34 AM
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Gas stations love price fluctuations. They pass along costs on the way up so the cost increase is no big deal to them. Where they gouge you is being too slow to let prices float back down. At that point everyone is so happy prices are dropping that they get away with it for a couple weeks of especially fat profits.

We actually studied the phenomenon in business school.

-Joel (aka Frijolee, but apparently from the wrong account)
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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 11:39 AM
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it is $19.89 here today. there is a news crew outside watching peoples faces at that price. not that it matters to me, I get over 30mpg in my sa22c
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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 05:59 PM
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it is $19.89 here today...
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Old Oct 9, 2012 | 06:37 PM
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Im currently in Kingman AZ for work and gas here is 3.76 for 91....... effen gay. Their cost of living here is 22% lower than CA... So if you live here its like giving yourself a 22% pay raise... And class 3 guns are allowed as well as consealment.... Dude here pumped gas next to me with a glock 18c (full auto glock) strapped to his hip..
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Old Oct 21, 2012 | 05:05 AM
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Its 4.99 for premium here |:<
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Old Oct 21, 2012 | 01:45 PM
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Down to the 4.30's now... still >30 cents/gallon higher than just before the "shortage," even though the news is full of premonitions of huge drops because national inventories are high and demand is down.

Not here, though. Not in California, which more or less floats on a sea of oil. Because we can't participate in the national market. Because our state is run by fanatical eco-zealots.

Argh.
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Old Oct 22, 2012 | 03:08 AM
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Was paying 5.10 last week on my road trip :-(
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