I like to look through import mags to see if there are any rotaries in them. Ive found a few mostly FD's but a FC once and awhile. Anyway yesterday i picked up the new Dsport and if anyone has seen their project cars.....they have a lot! But to my surprise the newest addition is a TII. My only hope is that they do something worthy with it.

 

Out of curiosity, what would you suggest they do with the project car?

 

^^^^^20b!

 

Haha, this guy is totally from Dsport

 

well if he is then don't do a drag set up! if it were up to me (sadly its not) i would turn it into a track car.

 

LS1, fully gutted, with new coil over suspension, bushings, brakes... to make it a full blown track car.

 

Dcrosby is that you........

 

yeah or you could go with the 20b swap like raptor22 said but no LS1!

 

I think 20b track car would be first choice, but if not any LSX engine will do... new LS9 would be nice.

 

apex_sideway is partially correct.. it is my car though.. although I think the car will eventually be more "track" than "drag", the main purpose will be to built a streetable and reliable FC.. and as much as the publisher of DSport grew up on American muscle, I definitely won't be going the LS1 route, much less piston (although I have had offers to drop in an SR20DET, but I politely declined).. the 20B idea is also pretty much out since it is cost prohibitive (simply just trying to get a 20B would blow the budget).. to put it into context, I'd like to build it the way "most" FC owners would.. by that I mean I'm going to stick with the 13BT.. and I dont want the project to turn into some money hungry animal where no one would relate with, much less respect the project.. maybe I'm being too idealistic (and if I am, please tell me).. but thats the "philosophy" at this time..

Anyway, the reason I originally asked what your suggestion(s) were is because I have a general idea of what I want to do and how to do it, but just wanted to hear what other rotary owners would like to see in a project FC.. also, you So Cal guys, if you could have anyone build/port your motor, who would you ask to do it?

In the meantime, I'm still digging through the forum looking for more information..

thanks

 

**** it up to the norcal guys and let wolf3d get ahold of it lol

 

I'm excited to see the finished project.

 

dave (guitarjunkie28) from www.rotaryheads.com does absolutely kick-*** work.. he works in el monte @ lucky7 racing... he rebuilt my motor, bridge=ported it..and did a thousand other things to get my car to sevenstock..


oh, and i totally agree w/ what you wanna do... if you start to veer towards the crazy modded car.. you'll lose the enthusiasm of many fc guys who wanna see what can be done to a fc on a real budget.. not the other magazines cars who's "budget" cars have 400rwhp and a full catelog of hks and greddy products.. i always find it funny how they say its a budget car.. but half the **** they are getting for the car cost more than the car itself..

whats you budget gonna be?

 

i wish dave would update his site

 

vipers, I saw your car at Sevenstock and I'd be lying if I didnt say your car was very inspirational.. I think it provided the final "swift kick in the ***" I needed to get going (again) on the car.. your car is awesome..

I did take a look at rotaryheads's website (after seeing the business cards on your car) and they seem reasonable.. the 3 others I am considering (or have considered) are Rotary Power, XS Engineering, and Speed Machine.. 12 years ago (when I took my running FC apart) Rotary Power was pretty much the shop to go to (at least from what I heard).. I've known the guys from XS for years (about 16 years to be exact) and I trust their work, but they may be out of the budget.. and it seems as though Speed Machine can build a reliable motor since the Falken FD that competes in Formula D gets beat to hell but seems to be running OK.. I used to think that picking a builder or building the motor was going to be the "hardest" part.. but actually, I think thats going to be the easiest part now.. 12 years ago, there wasnt that much variation in "what works".. but after reading through all/most of the project threads on this forum, it seems like everyone has their own opinion and they all "work"..

There isn't really a budget set for the project.. I dont think any of DSport's (or any other magazine's) project cars have a set budget.. but I think everything/every part is considered individually.. what I mean is.. like, I could spend, say $4,000 on a motor build.. but is it really worth it for what I want to do? Like maybe spending $3,000 on a build and saving the extra $1,000 for a better turbo or something is a better choice..

The other thing is, when I took my car apart 12 years ago, it had an upgraded compressor housing on the stock turbo (Turbonetics H3), exhaust, FCON, and the HKS FMIC.. the car has spent time at 3 different shops and has had 3 different exhaust manifolds on it.. I sold the FCON, turbo, and HKS FMIC like 10 years ago..

The car, as it is now, has a custom FMIC with better plumbing, a turbo, cast exahust manifold, and HKS racing wastegate.. I have a crapload of other (brand new) parts including a Haltech E6S (which I will not be using), Fluidyne radiator, Racing Beat clutch and flywheel, Cosmo fuel pump, and some Tokico shocks that I dont even think they make anymore.. and this doesnt even include some of the engine and body parts I have.. oh, and for the record, that Apex sticker was not put there by me either..

So its kinda hard to put a dollar figure on the project since I've basically been collecting parts for the past 12 years.. sad huh?

Anyway, I guess to answer your question, I want the project to cost as little as possible, but still be done right (reliable).. its not really an answer, I know..

 

one more shop you can try is rotary reliability and racing in santa ana they were at sevenstock also with a fleggling racing FC and a bonniville landspeed FC sponsored but redondo pd. i also know that dsport did a article on the track car that was built there as well. Louie the head mechanic there is a cool guy and he knows his **** and the owner Nick has been racing and building rotaries for more than 25 years.

 

Yeah, I guess I should've mentioned Rotary Racing and Reliability in my post about "shops from 12 years ago" (you can add Mazdatrix to that list too).. but from what I've heard, RR&R builds good motors, but they're just more conservative.. I have a friend who had his FD rebuilt there (motor, trannie, turbo) and he was happy with the work.. and yeah, I saw, I think, the silver widebody (?)FC at Sevenstock.. good stuff

 

robert at rotaryshack.com knows his sh.. great with turbos, hes in chatsworth, and also great with webers

 

yeah that widebody you saw at sevenstock is a car they build from the ground up just short of the body work that car is putting down 350whp and 350 torque at 6lb. of boost.