Is there a way to run a T88 without a haltec or power fc or any other computer. Would i have to buy a pre programed ecu.

 

Why would you even want to????????

what is there to be gained by it?

 

because i here that they are no good if you don't have a dyno and someone else to help you use it

 

You can usually get a good base map and tune it on the street. A dyno isn't necessary. You're much better off with a standalone system. There are alot of people in NYC who are good with Haltech ECU's.

 

To save me all the truble im waiting for the new AEM standalone managment system to come out. unlike the haltec i don't have to worry about cutting my harness all i got to do is plug and play. It goes with a windows base computer

 

HWO won't agree with me, but the Wolf 3D V4(AEM system) is going to be very good. I have the older Wolf 3D, and it runs my setup very well. When you're ready to get the Wolf send me a PM. I can hook you up with a guy in Jamaica who can get it for you, as well as help you with the installation and tuning.

 

Yea i know who your talking about. your probably going to send me to romeo at T&R Racing I own a guy named josi old car

 

i didn't cut my harness, i pulled the entire thing right out and had a beer to celebrate that useless pile of **** not being in my car any longer ...............

 

Thats what i meant to say. whatever the outcome is you still had to do the hassle to take it out

 

hassle? i enjoyed removing that pile of wires which has been cooking in the engine bay for 14 or so years and collecting grease and grime for just as long

 

well it doesnt matter to me because my wires is already out because the person who had the car before me had a haltec in it and he didnt like it so he wanted to get rid of the car. so i got a whole new wiring harness ready to be put in. And i can clean it before i put it in so no grease or crude can be on it

 

hey ace I think your confused
when people mention the "new AEM" system
it's not a WOLF 3D company
it's from the HONDA cold air intake system company

http://www.aempower.com/

 

yea thats it I can wait to that comes out. I hear that its plug and play know cutting just adapted and thats it. And that i goes to a lap top windows based computer

 

The ONLY way you can run a T88 with a Stock type ECU is having a custom ROM chip made just for your setup by a performance chip manufacturer that has the specs for your specific setup or can custom make one for you according to your specs, and use a AIC, Rebic, or F5 for additional fuel past the stock fuel systems limits. Problem is there is nobody here in the U.S. that can do that for you, only in Japan will you find a company that can do what you're requesting. Your only choice is to get a Power FC if you wanna keep it as close to a stock type computer as possible.

 

I forgot to add that a friend of mine is using a single turbo with a Pettit Unlimited ECU and a AIC, it's working really good. The basic reasoning why this can work is because the ignition map will stay the same no matter what turbo you use, what changes is the fuel demands, so all you basically have to do is add more fuel than the factory system can provide. But there's alot more involved in it than what I just stated, so I wouldn't reccomend doing it this way, like I said if you wanna stay as close to a stock type computer just get a Power FC.

 

Holley 750 carb and a '81-85 distributor!

 

amen!

BG silver claw (sealed) carb
Turbo city "Hat" with HKS race by-pass valve attached
J.W Holly manifold for 3rd Gen's $199
sump (fuel tank weld)
aeromotive fuel pump + fuel Reg
85 Distributer ( Locked)

 

HWO is the man!!! i can't wait to rip out the 15 year old POS harness in my 87. i can't wait to pull the 7 year old engine out and punt it for distance. the whole deal is getting replaced! i'm gonna race to the CASE when i get all the **** outta the engine bay and i see nothing but air in its place. i'm not gonna have 1 beer... but i'll have 1 hella hangover!

i dunno why anyone would want to keep the stock harness and ecu....that's silly. i'd hate to waste such a good turbo. you can gimme the turbo and keep your ecu! j/k

lata
Jay

 

The timing curves changes with different turbos. Especially if you go from the stock twins to some big single turbo like a T-88 kit. Since you remove a lot of restriction in the exhaust you increase VE will also changes your timing curve. The car will run 'okay' but you are missing out on a decent amount of power using the very conservative stock timing curve.

If you want to use tap splices you can wire up a Haltech without cutting the harness or removing it. Or if you wait a little bit I bet someone will come out with something that will work with your stock harness and fuel/timing needs. No matter what if you run more than ~15psi you will need a new MAP sensor, plus you will need bigger secondaries, which will make a need for a tunable ECU.

 

The timing curves with the Unlimited computer are actually a little bit more aggresive than some aftermarket tuners tune on standalone engine managements, but are also more accurate (as far as resolution goes) so you can use it. The reason you DON'T need another MAP sensor for the ecu(besides that it won't work) to run higher boost with an AIC, Rebic, or Haltech F5 is because the ignition timing basically stays the same from about 15-30psi. True the ecu will not be able to add fuel beyond the 16psi point because the stock MAP sensor only reads that high, BUT a AIC, Rebic, or Haltech F5 MAP sensor CAN read to 2bar(29.4psi) so from 16psi and up the additionals can control fuel, and that's why it WILL work. BTW, this is the same basic concept that cars with distributors use Haltech F9's just to control fuel, and the stock factory distributor controls ignition.

 

No, I was actually thinking of someone else. You can PM me if you want to know who he is. Didn't Jose's car get stolen?

 

Oh, my mistake. I was thinking of Advanced Engine Management, the company that makes the Wolf. I was confused because he said the new system didn't require cutting the harness. The new Wolf system is supposed to be able to plug into an FD's wiring, or something like that.

 

Did you yank the whole thing or take it apart? I took mine apart to allow the windshiled wipers and stock temperature gauge to work.

 

hahaha, Yeah Jose, I think I just found the guy that stole your car.....
funny thing is, you don't even seem upset.
...priceless...

hey AnthonyT78/88, do you wanna sell me the suspension and haltech, or are they gone already?

 

man i wish they were in it but when it went threw the insuarance auction a lot of things weren't in it. i already spoke to jose. anyways how do you know him