Nihilanthic

Ok, worn pillowballs clank and are an annoyance in regular street driving, not something dangerous. Also, regular wear items like pads, tires, etc will need periodic replacement as well. If he goes with a T-56 hes going to be getting a new clutch anyway most likely.

But, well, guess what? None of that is going to be nearly as catastrophic as a blown seal or the twins boost spiking, nor as expensive.

Now, as far as the argument of a new car, like a GTO, I missed that. A GTO would be new, luxurious, bal bla bla, but it wont hold a candle to a FD - well, maybe in a drag race or in terms of comfort as a FD is more oriented for performance than a GTO... and a stock GTO weighs 3700 lbs. Thats 900 lbs heavier than a FD!

So, Id say pick what you want.. work and replacing wear items but much more performance, or a shiney new luxury/muscle car that can haul *** in a straight line and make you feel comfy.

I didnt read the thread before I posted, I was just addressing the costs of doing the swap + the fact taht its all bolt in, its not a matter of you have to custom this or prototype that. IIRC, ChrisV did his 302 FC back in 1992

razorback

shut the hell up.

bcool

I'm not a huge fan of the conversion myself but shut the **** up.

FLA94FD

1. Spanking one of the new 400hp GTO with an FD is pretty easy with a few bolt on mods, it only runs 13.7s. With a little more work you can get into the low 12's with stock twins.

2. Unless you're doing the work yourself I would thing 12-15K would be closer to the right price.

I have about that much invested in my RX-7 with rebuild and wish I would have gone with the V8. My car always wants to go back to the shop and I live in an upscale apartment that doesn't tolerate the hood being up on your car so doing the work myself is out of the question. Beside the cars love affair with shop and gas stations 10-12 mpg in the city anything past moderate throttle invokes an extremely obnoxious exhaust note.

wingsfan

I guess the exhaust just makes itself right?

And the Hinson plug and play wiring harness that I answered too many goddamned questions about over the last two years just connects itself right?

How about you actually tackle a conversion yourself before you go spouting off about how easy they are.

Great, so the motor's bolted in place. I guess there are no problems after that an you're in the clear right? There's no need for a support forum like torquecentral because tehse conversions are such plug and play right? There are no questions that pop up or anything after the motor is in place.

See my comment above about actually completeing a conversion yourself. You're the king of chiming in with uber-detailed information without any experience to back up your claims. You post so muych **** that you should be marked with a disclaimer.

wingsfan

Agreed. He's a pain in the *** regardless of what forum you find him on.

audiobot7

relax bro

Cgotto6

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Damn dude. Have you ever contributed to the forum in a positive way? At all? Every post I see you do is just commenting on something, or somebodys idea. Do us all a favor and post less.

DougFD3S

Before you guys keep jumping out of the woodwork to flame on, remember this. He asked if he should get an FD with an LS1 or a GTO. He never asked if he should install an LS1 over a rotary.

razorback

hes 18 and looks to be spoiled, what do you expect?

turbogarrett

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If your going to buy an fd for a daily driver, have a backup car regardless of driveline- maybe 2 backup cars if one of them is a modded dsm If you go ls1/fd you won't regret it, just remember bolting the ls1/t56 in place is the easy part!

mazda13B88

why would u put a stinking piston motor in an rx7. that is the dumbest thing i have ever heard of. rx anything is the only car with a rotary. go to rx7world.com and their is a 3rd gen their that would kill a v8 anyday.

HardHitter

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Thanks for all the help guys.

I still have to buy the FD, so it'll probably be around 12-13000 for one in good condition whenever I do find one. I will drive it as a daily driver for then until I go through with the conversion. I've been told that it will take about 2 months to do the conversion. How much do you think a stock twin turbo will go for with decent mileage on? I'm hoping it will pay for atleast 1/2 of the LS1 T-56 conversion.

mazda13b, I myself and everyone with an FD know the FD can put out a crazy amount of power with mods, but from what I've read, the reliability of this heavily modded engine is nothing to play with. The reason for the LS1 is to have reliability and power at the same time.

SMonty

I am working on an 88 GXL, I'm going for the LS1 swap myself, I expect to spend around 6-7 grand on the swap but that includes new cylinder heads, intake, exhaust and valvetrain. Patriot performance made over 500 hp with just heads intake and exhaust. I didn't read in here anywhere if anyones weighed the car after an ls1 swap. Based only on what i've read, its all aluminum and it should wiegh less than the s5 turbo engine. i dont know why people get so uptight about keeping a rotary in it. its a good little engine and with a ton of electronics and turbo stuff they can fly but its not like the rotary is perfect. Good luck on the project.

Nihilanthic

Hey Dru, here ya go, check my sig.

Im sorry youre still so bitter that jimlab made an *** out of himself trying to troll me in kukris IRS thread, so its okay. I forgive you

payne

I built mine in college

(But I didnt get it smogged and roadworthy till a month after I graduated)

Dont think that an FD can be your only car. For one thing, they are downright stupid to drive in the rian.

turbogarrett

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It is completely retarded, I don't know why anyone would do such a thing?

wingsfan

Boy you sure have me pegged.

My distaste for your antics has absolutely nothing to do with Jim. But whatever you need to feel better about yourself.

You have some serious antisocial issues that you need to work through. You don't need to add your $0.02 to every thread you run across. It'll be OK.

I've asked you repeatedly to grow up, both here and at TC, and you just ignore me and keep the same spiel. Posting misinformation, riding others coattails, and generally behaving antagonistically. Considering you have zero conversion experience, and don't own an RX7 why would we want your $0.02? You're just a troll.

razorback

nice creating another account there smartguy.

now shut up and sit down.

Nihilanthic

Misinformation.... the swap, bolting the engine in, has what to do with wiring or going to an exhaust shop? Thats REAL big misinformation there buddy. I dont consider exhaust **** or wiring part of bolting it in, I was referring to the mounts that are not in prototype stage that grannys and Hinson sell.

But ok, lets split hairs - you have to wire all the **** in, the wiring isnt "bolt in", and nobodys yet made full length exhaust for a FD that bolts to the manifolds of a LS1. I didnt properly address that, but I figured he could figure out a EFI engine has wiring to do and that it would need exhaust

Now, as far as 'riding coat tails' - umm, hello? Are you riding someones coattail right now putting a Chevy LS1 in a Mazda RX-7? Oh, youre riding otto's coat tails using a 4 stroke engine.... and Tremec's coat tails with that T-56. And if you do a cobra swap, youre riding Fords coat tails!

Hey, how many coat tails do you ride in math or science class?

And, as far as antagonism goes, go look in a mirror. And yeah, it is funny that after I kept dodging Jimlabs ******* obvious attempts to troll me in that thread, and then a thread sprung up about all the bullshit personal attacks, you and jimmy boy deleted all your posts and ran off like pissed off sulking children.

So yeah, go hit your head with a hammer (As well as your dick so you KNOW that it hurts!) and go re-develop all the math and science and applied mechanical engineering necessary to work on cars and do engine swaps, then talk to me about coattails, ok?

wingsfan

yeah, lets. A stroker kit for an LS1 is not $1K. You can't do an FD LS1 swap for $5K without a significant amount of luck. And a rotary isn't 3.9L no matter how badly you want it to be.

Let's split some more hairs. YOU DON"T HAVE AN RX7! Which makes your "project" about as real as my Enzo.

I'm not going to go back and forth with you. You're a clown...you know I think you're a clown and we'll leave it at that. I keep hoping you'll crawl back under your rock or get trapped under something heavy, but you continually dissappoint.

I have a swap...you have dreams, it's that simple.

You're right. I got my doctorate by riding coattails.

You haven't a clue what you're talking about, nor all of the information as to why we left in the manner we did. Any speculation on your part will just make you look like the fool you are.

You're such a tough guy Chris. One day you'll wake up and realize why noone likes you. Now why don't you run off and rub both of your nickels together and pray that they reproduce you dumbshit bastard.

Nihilanthic

1. A rotary IS a 3.9 liter engine, it just takes an extra rotation to go through all of its displacement. Piston engines need two... a 13b rotary that spins twice goes through 2.6 liters of displacement. Thus, its equivilant to a 2.6 liter, but that extra rotation to fill the last two combustion chambers isn't imaginary, now is it?

2. who the **** said you had to or should stroke out a LS1? Im glad you had that little tidbit to share....

3. ok, you got a doctorate. WTF did you develop brand ****** new thats pertinant to all of this? Did you go invent the piston engine, the rx-7 chassis, the rotary, and the idea to swap it and then do the swap yourself? I think ChrisV's coattails are a little muddied by now, dontcha think?

4. ad hominem attacks dont exactly make you look right. Jimlab left because he showed his *** trying to troll me in Kukris IRS thread doing the same **** you are now, personal attacks, and everyone else got sick of it. And, well, when he left, you did too, deleting all your posts in a little hissy fit like a child.

So yeah, keep trying to sling insults and stir **** up and douse threads in flames, it makes my ****** day watching you get pissed off and stroke your ego off and blow your load all over this forum. You keep reminding me how glad I am that you and your sensitive feelings are gone, Druman.

wingsfan

Any luck with those nickels? How's the paper route?

HardHitter

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please get thread back on topic, use PM's please.

Nihilanthic

so, nothing to actually say anymore so its back to stupid insults?

What, nothing about my mama being fat or her *** having its own congressman? Im appalled, Dru, Id really expect better insults from someone with a Doctorate.

You're REALLY helping your side right now acting like a kid. youre so right I feel like I should prostrate myself before your almightyness and income level.