V-8 Fc
#1
Newbie
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Columbus
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
V-8 Fc
Getting 1988 turbo 2, I was wondering which v-8 engine I should put in ?
Right now I am almost positive on a 350 sbc but a 302 swap is very possible. My only requirements for either or is EFI. Which ever engine I pick will quickly be recieving two T04E .50ar turbos and a new tremmec. Any suggestions?
Right now I am almost positive on a 350 sbc but a 302 swap is very possible. My only requirements for either or is EFI. Which ever engine I pick will quickly be recieving two T04E .50ar turbos and a new tremmec. Any suggestions?
#3
I live in an igloo
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: calgary alberta
Posts: 2,546
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
no. im sorry.
Its not you, its just your idea. Adding a V8 to the seven is such a waste, I mean you buy a seven becuase of the rotary, not becuase of really how it looks, there are plenty of other cars that look like the seven that use pistons.
If I were you, i'd search to see, there are a few people here who have and are putting V8's into their sevens.. just search and you'll find out.
Its not you, its just your idea. Adding a V8 to the seven is such a waste, I mean you buy a seven becuase of the rotary, not becuase of really how it looks, there are plenty of other cars that look like the seven that use pistons.
If I were you, i'd search to see, there are a few people here who have and are putting V8's into their sevens.. just search and you'll find out.
#5
I live in an igloo
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: calgary alberta
Posts: 2,546
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
He can get the answers by searching buddy. Do you walk into a church and ask where you can find a book on satanism? NO becuase its gonna start ****.
lol, im sure if he searches he'll find out what the other members are using.
lol, im sure if he searches he'll find out what the other members are using.
#6
S5 TII
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Denver, CO
Posts: 826
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by BlaCkPlaGUE
He can get the answers by searching buddy. Do you walk into a church and ask where you can find a book on satanism? NO becuase its gonna start ****.
-Andrew
Trending Topics
#9
I live in an igloo
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: calgary alberta
Posts: 2,546
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by GEINN FC3S
if only mazda would hear about you putting a v-8 in a rotary powered car, u would get bitch slapped a million times.
heh.. the owner would probably bow his head in shame, come up to the guy and give him a tanto so that he can end his own life.
#10
Newbie
Thread Starter
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Columbus
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
I am just looking for a cheap reliable high power source for a car that out handles most. Not that I have anything against rotaries I just think beating the hell out of a good old v-8 and being able to do again without working on the engine for 2 hours would be fun. Besides I have a rotary project up my sleeve.
#12
Rotary Freak
Originally Posted by CokeRx7
it would be alot easier for him to jut get a 3rd rotor..than to get a V-8... or just get a ****** ford prob and put a V-8 in it... like the 93 model...
Mandilater - the LS1/T56 is pretty much just the right combination for the RX7. You're geared perfectly for all types of driving and you get an engine that can make 400+rwhp to the ground N/A, easily. The 302 is lighter but the combination of the T5 and the 4.1 rear end make for an engine that redlines at like 5500 and is cruising down the highway at 3k.
#13
Locust of the apocalypse
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Directly above the center of the earth (York, PA)
Posts: 2,553
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like
on
1 Post
Originally Posted by Mandilater
Getting 1988 turbo 2, I was wondering which v-8 engine I should put in ?
Right now I am almost positive on a 350 sbc but a 302 swap is very possible. My only requirements for either or is EFI. Which ever engine I pick will quickly be recieving two T04E .50ar turbos and a new tremmec. Any suggestions?
Right now I am almost positive on a 350 sbc but a 302 swap is very possible. My only requirements for either or is EFI. Which ever engine I pick will quickly be recieving two T04E .50ar turbos and a new tremmec. Any suggestions?
Thats the link to Granny's speed shop where you can get more info about putting a motor in a RX..
NOW THEN... I don't know what you're planning on doing with those turbos... but if you get them to fit in the engine bay of a TII along with a v-8 motor, you should get together with Stephen Hawking cause your some kind of genious!!! Take a look at some rx-7 V-8 conversions... there aint no room!!!!
i know for a fact that the Ford Swap is easier on a first gen.. second gens, i don't think it matters and the kits are cheaper for the chevy (however, MAZDA is owned by Ford... you may want to stick with the program a little bit!!!)
#14
Rotary Freak
Yeah a TT LS1 isn't going to happen. I've seen a TT LT1 but it was in an FD. A vortech intercooled supercharger kit would fit under the hood, but you'd have to do some custom work with the intake piping. Personally I'd build a heads/cam/nitrous LS1 or if you don't mind a hood scoop, install a magnacharger.
I think you could do a twin turbo 302, but then again that would be a TON of work.
www.grannysspeedshop.com and www.hinsonsupercars.com both sell V8 mounting kits and www.torquecentral.com is the site to go to for any questions on a V8 conversion.
I think you could do a twin turbo 302, but then again that would be a TON of work.
www.grannysspeedshop.com and www.hinsonsupercars.com both sell V8 mounting kits and www.torquecentral.com is the site to go to for any questions on a V8 conversion.
#15
I
iTrader: (6)
Originally Posted by Mandilater
I am just looking for a cheap reliable high power source for a car that out handles most. Not that I have anything against rotaries I just think beating the hell out of a good old v-8 and being able to do again without working on the engine for 2 hours would be fun. Besides I have a rotary project up my sleeve.
another thing to look at about putting a v8 in is the REAR END gear ratio. the stock rear end is a 4.10, which in alot fo 350 trany conversions is gonna lower ur top speed drasticly and make highway cruizing rpm quite high for a v8.
#16
Rotary Freak
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Rochester, NY
Posts: 1,579
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by kompressorlogic
putting the 350 v8 up front will negitively effect the handling,by throwing off the good weight ratio. and probably raise the center of gravity also . which wont make this car handle that great anymore.
another thing to look at about putting a v8 in is the REAR END gear ratio. the stock rear end is a 4.10, which in alot fo 350 trany conversions is gonna lower ur top speed drasticly and make highway cruizing rpm quite high for a v8.
another thing to look at about putting a v8 in is the REAR END gear ratio. the stock rear end is a 4.10, which in alot fo 350 trany conversions is gonna lower ur top speed drasticly and make highway cruizing rpm quite high for a v8.
-the weight chnge is minimal, like 3% change in real world moment of inertia for the chassis, that is nothing you would feel unless youre in a speedvision roadracing competition.
-the 4.10 rear end is great for the LS1T56, in fact lot of F-body guys throw in a 4.10 when they start modifying their shitty camaros/firebirds (lol)
the misinformtion you guys spit out is sometimes ridiculous and usually not fair to the wonderful FC chassis that Mazda designed so well. Us v8'ers love the FC chassis, its incredible, but the rotary is less than desirable, especially in the sorry state of disrepair that most FC's seem to be in.
#18
#19
Zero Rotor Motorsports
iTrader: (1)
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Glen Burnie, MD
Posts: 2,525
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Holy **** there are some stupid people on this planet. Can't anyone just answer the damn question without being a dick? (no offense to the couple guys who DID provide useful info)
You can fit 2 turbos into anything with any motor if you really want to. All it takes is a deep pocket with a fat wallet in it. It won't be easy, but hey if you have a rotary project, you know all about that.
For lightest weight, the LS1 (or an aluminum block/head standard SBC engine) is the way to go. LS1's are the latest design available from GM with the best hp/tq numbers yet and great gas mileage to boot (stock Vettes = 30mpg on the hwy).
For the cheapest route, the standard iron SBC engine is the most common engine on the planet. You can get a stock used junkyard 350 for $50-100. Of course, the more power you want, the more it will cost. It's all up to you.
For the smallest package, the Ford 302 is a nice fit and though it is not in fact lighter than an LS1, it's lighter than a lot of V8's.
My recommendation is if you want to run 2 turbos, go with a Buick V6 from a Grand National. I know of one personally who is running 7 second 1/4 mile times with his single turbo motor in his Grand National (yes it's a race car, but the point is it CAN MAKE POWER). It's basically a V8 minus 2 cylinders as far as dimensions go, and the aftermarket for that motor is astounding. It will still be a tight fit, but that much easier with the smaller block.
No matter what you do, don't pay attention to the idiots who think you bought a car because of the stock rotary engine. Maybe some people do, and hooray for them. I buy cars because I like the cars for their potential and positive points. When I build an airplane or a rodracer I will gladly use a rotary. Until then, my RX7's will have RELIABLE, USER FRIENDLY HORSEPOWER.
Good luck.
You can fit 2 turbos into anything with any motor if you really want to. All it takes is a deep pocket with a fat wallet in it. It won't be easy, but hey if you have a rotary project, you know all about that.
For lightest weight, the LS1 (or an aluminum block/head standard SBC engine) is the way to go. LS1's are the latest design available from GM with the best hp/tq numbers yet and great gas mileage to boot (stock Vettes = 30mpg on the hwy).
For the cheapest route, the standard iron SBC engine is the most common engine on the planet. You can get a stock used junkyard 350 for $50-100. Of course, the more power you want, the more it will cost. It's all up to you.
For the smallest package, the Ford 302 is a nice fit and though it is not in fact lighter than an LS1, it's lighter than a lot of V8's.
My recommendation is if you want to run 2 turbos, go with a Buick V6 from a Grand National. I know of one personally who is running 7 second 1/4 mile times with his single turbo motor in his Grand National (yes it's a race car, but the point is it CAN MAKE POWER). It's basically a V8 minus 2 cylinders as far as dimensions go, and the aftermarket for that motor is astounding. It will still be a tight fit, but that much easier with the smaller block.
No matter what you do, don't pay attention to the idiots who think you bought a car because of the stock rotary engine. Maybe some people do, and hooray for them. I buy cars because I like the cars for their potential and positive points. When I build an airplane or a rodracer I will gladly use a rotary. Until then, my RX7's will have RELIABLE, USER FRIENDLY HORSEPOWER.
Good luck.
#20
If you want to drop a V-8 in, go for it! The only thing I don't like about it is that you are doing it to a TII which is rare. N/A's are all over the place and would leave more TII's for us rotor heads. However, good luck with the swap...you'll have a beast when its done!
-Joe
-Joe
#21
Respecognize!
Originally Posted by OverDriven
If you want to drop a V-8 in, go for it! The only thing I don't like about it is that you are doing it to a TII which is rare. N/A's are all over the place and would leave more TII's for us rotor heads. However, good luck with the swap...you'll have a beast when its done!
-Joe
-Joe
#22
Full Member
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 73
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
do a ramjet 350. hook up a 12v sorce to it, and u got instant efi, without running harnesses, and ecu problems, only downfall is the price.. i think its around 6 grand
#23
RX-347
iTrader: (2)
Originally Posted by YearsOfDecay
http://www.engineswaps.com/
NOW THEN... I don't know what you're planning on doing with those turbos... but if you get them to fit in the engine bay of a TII along with a v-8 motor, you should get together with Stephen Hawking cause your some kind of genious!!! Take a look at some rx-7 V-8 conversions... there aint no room!!!!
NOW THEN... I don't know what you're planning on doing with those turbos... but if you get them to fit in the engine bay of a TII along with a v-8 motor, you should get together with Stephen Hawking cause your some kind of genious!!! Take a look at some rx-7 V-8 conversions... there aint no room!!!!
I can stand in my totally competed V8 RX7 engine bay. That is, with the engine, all wiring, and accessories in the car, I can STAND on the ground in my engine bay. I have enough room for 2 T88s and all plumbing, without issues.
Don't believe me? Take a look-
Now, I am a genius (look, I can even SPELL IT) and all, but come on, at least try to know what you're talking about before you spout off misinformation.
I'm not going to get into the weight issues. "Don't put a V8 in it, it'll kill the handling... put in a 20B" LMAO, do you have any CLUE how heavy a 20B is?
LS1/T56 is by far the best combo for a 2nd Gen. If I only knew then what I know now, my swap would've been that setup.
Good luck-
#24
I'm awesome!
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Greenville, SC & Atlanta, GA & Clovis, NM
Posts: 1,311
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by BlaCkPlaGUE
no. im sorry.
Its not you, its just your idea. Adding a V8 to the seven is such a waste, I mean you buy a seven becuase of the rotary, not becuase of really how it looks, there are plenty of other cars that look like the seven that use pistons.
If I were you, i'd search to see, there are a few people here who have and are putting V8's into their sevens.. just search and you'll find out.
Its not you, its just your idea. Adding a V8 to the seven is such a waste, I mean you buy a seven becuase of the rotary, not becuase of really how it looks, there are plenty of other cars that look like the seven that use pistons.
If I were you, i'd search to see, there are a few people here who have and are putting V8's into their sevens.. just search and you'll find out.
#25
I'm awesome!
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Greenville, SC & Atlanta, GA & Clovis, NM
Posts: 1,311
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes
on
0 Posts
Originally Posted by digitalsolo
LMAO, are you serious?
I can stand in my totally competed V8 RX7 engine bay. That is, with the engine, all wiring, and accessories in the car, I can STAND on the ground in my engine bay. I have enough room for 2 T88s and all plumbing, without issues.
Don't believe me? Take a look-
Now, I am a genius (look, I can even SPELL IT) and all, but come on, at least try to know what you're talking about before you spout off misinformation.
I'm not going to get into the weight issues. "Don't put a V8 in it, it'll kill the handling... put in a 20B" LMAO, do you have any CLUE how heavy a 20B is?
LS1/T56 is by far the best combo for a 2nd Gen. If I only knew then what I know now, my swap would've been that setup.
Good luck-
I can stand in my totally competed V8 RX7 engine bay. That is, with the engine, all wiring, and accessories in the car, I can STAND on the ground in my engine bay. I have enough room for 2 T88s and all plumbing, without issues.
Don't believe me? Take a look-
Now, I am a genius (look, I can even SPELL IT) and all, but come on, at least try to know what you're talking about before you spout off misinformation.
I'm not going to get into the weight issues. "Don't put a V8 in it, it'll kill the handling... put in a 20B" LMAO, do you have any CLUE how heavy a 20B is?
LS1/T56 is by far the best combo for a 2nd Gen. If I only knew then what I know now, my swap would've been that setup.
Good luck-