does anyone else have a problem finiding one of these? I only found one motor for 1500 no acc.'s and no ecu/wiring. So WTF. I want to buy a used 350 with some power, not spend 6000 on a new one (that would hall *** though). And i refuse a 305.

 

There's always a few on eBay, but prepare to pay...

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...922257742&rd=1

see?

 

get a L98 350 4 bolt, some AFR 210(or bigger) heads, a big nice healthy cam, and look on thirdgen.org to swap a lt1 or lt4 intake on the old 350 block. with the money saved buyng a 350 vrs LS1/LT1 go buy a standalone engine setup like FAST, TEC3, haltech etc etc.

will be chaeper and faster in long run with same amount of cash

 

summit racing has LT1 to LT4 conversion w/ cylinder heads up but wouuld it work with a standard 350 from oh say a caprice?

 

LT1 heads have the same bolt pattern (block to heads) as GEN1 blocks have always had, they however were designed to go on a reverse cooled engine, and part of the cooling system entailed two new coolant passages per head so they will have to be pluged. but if you are up to the challenge and are good at fabricationg it can be doen cheap(old lt1 heads go for like 100-200 bucks) and there are plenty of 500rwhp lt1s out there using ported stock heads and intakes.

also you could get normal SBC heads and slap on a lt1 intake to work on a old 350, but you have to do a few modifications. for one on a lt1 engine there is no distributor, so you have to make provisions in the lt1 intake, also the coolant passeges are a little different. and please dont listen to people who say these intakes will kill lowend torque. there are plenty of examples out there that make KILLER torque

here is the writeup of the swap ( http://www.lt1intake.com/swapping.htm )

if this seems overwhelming PM and I can shoot you some more info or my $.02

simple:
if you want bolt in expensive power get a LT1 or LS1
if you want budget power get a SBC converted to LT1 intake and heads

 

maybe i should buy that LT1 block for a 1000 and just work form there

 

1000 for the block or 1000 for the engine?

what kind of power are you looking for?

 

the whole motor w/o trans, wiring for 1000
i want a n/a motor with around 400 torque and 450 hp. anymore and the t56 trans will be a bit unhappy.

 

If you need an LT1 you can get one from www.contemporarycorvette.com - they have a lot of LS1's as well. They deal in Corvette's and F-bodies almost exclusively.

 

Go with an LS1...

Ask most of the people who have done the swap, for the amount of money/time invested with the older, heavier 350s, and they'll tell you to go LS1 as well... It's a better engine then the GenI/LT1 engines, with a hell of a lot of potential, and while the up-front costs are higher, I think you'll find that building the 350 to the levels you want, the LS1 become a lot closer in cost, not to mention the drivability increases.

My .02 after doing my SBC 350 swap...

 

And a solid roller cam or a supercharger.

 

whats the difference between an lt1 and an ls1 and an lt4?

 

The LT1 is the second generation 350 CID* Chevrolet small block that was available in the '93-'97 Camaro/Firebird (aluminum heads), '94-'96 Caprice Classic/Impala SS (iron heads), and '92-'96 Corvette (aluminum heads). The LT4 had upgraded heads, cam, timing set, and a red powder coated intake and was available only in the '96 Corvette Grand Sport and '97 Camaro SS/Firebird WS6 Firehawk.

1992 Corvette - 300 hp

1993 Corvette - 300 hp
1993 Camaro Z-28/Firebird Formula T/A - 275 hp

1994 Corvette - 300 hp
1994 Camaro Z-28/Firebird Formula T/A - 275 hp
1994 Caprice Classic - 260 hp
1994 Impala SS - 260 hp

1995 Corvette - 300 hp
1995 Camaro Z-28/Firebird Formula T/A - 275 hp
1995 Caprice Classic - 260 hp
1995 Impala SS - 260 hp

1996 Corvette - 300 hp
1996 Corvette Grand Sport - 330 hp (LT4)
1996 Camaro Z-28/Firebird Formula T/A - 285 hp
1996 Camaro SS/Firebird WS6 Firehawk - 305 hp
1996 Caprice Classic - 260 hp
1996 Impala SS - 260 hp

1997 Camaro Z-28/Formula T/A - 285 hp
1997 Camaro SS/Firebird WS6 Firehawk - 335 hp (LT4)

*3.48" stroke x 4.00" bore^2 x 8 x 0.7854 = 349.8 CID

The LS1 is the third generation 346 CID* Chevrolet small block engine and shares nothing in common with the LT1 except the bore spacing and a few minor parts. It was a completely new design from the ground up, introduced in the 1997 Corvette, and has an aluminum block and composite intake compared to the LT1's iron block and aluminum intake. It was available in the '98-'02 Camaro/Firebird, and '97-'04 Corvette. The LS6 is an upgraded version with a new intake, heads, cam, and various other parts and was available in the '01-'04 Z06 Corvette only.

1997 Corvette - 345 hp

1998 Corvette - 345 hp
1998 Camaro Z-28/Firebird Formula T/A - 305 hp
1998 Camaro SS/Firebird WS6 - 320 hp

1999 Corvette - 345 hp
1999 Camaro Z-28/Firebird Formula T/A - 305 hp
1999 Camaro SS/Firebird WS6 - 320 hp

2000 Corvette - 345 hp
2000 Camaro Z-28/Formula T/A - 305 hp
2000 Camaro SS/Firebird WS6 - 320 hp

2001 Corvette - 350 hp
2001 Corvette Z06 - 385 hp (LS6)
2001 Camaro Z-28/Firebird Formula T/A - 310 hp
2001 Camaro SS/Firebird WS6 - 325 hp

2002 Corvette - 350 hp
2002 Corvette Z06 - 405 hp (LS6)
2002 Camaro Z-28/Firebird Formula T/A - 310 hp
2002 Camaro SS/Firebird WS6 - 325 hp

2003 Corvette - 350 hp
2003 Corvette Z06 - 405 hp (LS6)

2004 Corvette - 350 hp
2004 Corvette Z06 - 405 hp (LS6)

* 3.62" stroke x 3.90" bore^2 x 8 x 0.7854 = 345.9 CID

 

so if i track down an LS1 motor then call up summit for the Ls1 to ls6 conversion kit i would have basically a Z06 motor. My god. That would get me a ticket or two.

 

ehh your better off getting a ls1 and then getting a ls6 intake from part outs and people upgrading. Then get bigger heads/cam than the z06 for the price

also be aware some of the older ls1 have oil consumption issues

also some LS1 motors do in fact have the z06 block(rumored to be a lil stronger)