ItsNiceToBurnRice

whats HP of that baby, and what 1/4 time can it be expected to run? My dad has a 327 block from a 67 vette I would consider building if my 13B would ever blow

DEEPERIMAGE.COM

Good Job man, I think the car looks very nice. **** what anyone else thinks of "Your" car..Most of the ones bitching are driving a slow *** N/A anyways and are probably just jelous. Thats what bitching is, Jelousy.

Mykl

I wish I had a dime for every time I heard somebody call my car slow. I don't fall into the "bitchers" category that you so eloquently describe, but hearing about how slow my car is over and over again does get a bit old.

I guess you can't get any respect from the "big dogs" until you're blingin' in an FD.

supergoat

VERY nice work. I like it a lot. Nice choice of engine also. I have always thought about this swap. If it were me, I'd probably go for a Ford 4.6L V8. I just love the smooth power band. While I love the rotary engine, I have always had a soft sopt for American V8s, so I see no problem with this swap.

InfiniIIIREX

A V-8 in an RX7 is kind of like putting a Harley engine in a Hayabusa, you'll have a cool vehicle but you won't really be accepted by the the Harley guys (domestics) or the Suzuki guys (RX7 people) but if you don't care about that, then cool. Thats one of the nicest convertibles I've seen, and are those Konig Monsoons I see?

RICE RACING

Easy !

It's because people here are passionate about rotaries, some others are not !

I along with the passionate ones cannot give a **** about a V8, end of story! However this guy should be comended for showing us his conversion and not being an idiot about it and offending us by saying how much better it is than a rotary engine, I take my hat of to him for this and think his car is nice.

BlackSport0187

N/As can be made to be fast genius. We can't all be as fast as you though, lol. I could have bought a turbo if I wanted to, but in my opinion they aren't suitable for daily driving.

your average slow *** N/A driver.
Ike

SonicRaT

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I'm sure a lot of N/A's could set your turbo straight. You're starting to sound like the V8 haters, only towards N/A's, what's with that?

SonicRaT

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Hey BlackSport, you ever been down by the Medford area? I lived there for a while, definatly a nice place! Thinking about heading out there when my girlfriend goes home for the summer. Maybe we could meet up and argue about the v8 conversion!

BogusFile

Actually domestic guys can't stop giggling when they see my V8 FC. Even some RX guys get a smile on their faces when they see it, unless we race or course. Then they frown haha
Joke!!! I repeat Joke!!!! I dont want any tears

PaulC

UHM heres a question. Mainly just to play devils advocate while I am waiting on a stripe set to repair.

IF his V8 is only 130lbs heavier than it was with the 13b, what would a LS1 do in a Rx7 being as its over 220lbs lighter than the cast iron blocked engine he put in? wouldn't that actually make an RX7 rear biased as far as weight goes? also the extra mass being higher would not really matter since its actually less weight over all.

BlackSport0187

That would be cool man. You could meet the local RX-7 following that I'm helping to create. I'd been down for kicking your *** in that argument, lol, just kidding.

Later bro,
Ike

ChrisV

The problem wiht the 4.6 OHC engine is that it's physically as large as the old 460 big block. In fact, it's a bit wider, due to the cam placement. It would offer greater weight issues than the SBC or SBF. There's enough physical room in there for it, but I don't see it as being as viable a swap as the 5.0 (and it's more expensive, too).

rx7_ragtop

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Brad

rx7_ragtop

I think you did a nice job on the conversion. I'm not a fan of V8 conversions, but that looks pretty clean. Now, on to a couple of points.

1) I think you need to take a good look at your corner weights. It appears that there is some uneven wear or perhaps damage on your suspension, to throw the diagonal weights off that much. It COULD be a safety issue, so I suggest checking it out.

2) You did a good job of maintaining the overall balance, and I for one would like to drive it to see what it feels like. A convertible was the ideal candidate for this, as they actually have a slightly REARWARD weight bias in stock form. Did you retain the A/C, P/S, etc? (I can live without the P/S, in fact I don't like it... but A/C is a MUST HAVE in Texas in the summer!)

My convertible has a TII transmission and differential... and the smaller convertible rear swaybar was replaced with the TII unit. It's more balanced that way- I think the convertible was "tamed" a bit more than I like for the average driver- it isn't AS balanced as the coupes... probably trying to decrease accidents in the topless version, by making it understeer. The TII bar on the rear brings it into pretty good balance, it doesn't seem to want to oversteer, but I haven't pushed it THAT hard since I swapped those parts- it might be tail-happy at the limit. IF so, I'll change the front bar and adjust tire pressures...

Perry Gehenna

did you *actually* weight the car BEFORE you performed your act of vandalism against that FC? Or are you going on the skewed factory data that Mazda provides?

btw, what hallucinogen prompted you to mar an RX7 in the manner you did? Why V8 an RX7? Why not a Mini? Or a Push Bike?



Perry Gehenna

ChrisV

Perry, have you bothered to read any of the reasons why? It's been gone over to death. I'm really tired of people like you not paying attention in class...

ChrisV

Oh, BTW, it was weighed after, as was mine. It matters not what it weighed before, as there are many here who know how much the stockers weigh. Direct comparisons can still be made, quite easily, without using the "skewed" factory data (and where do you get THAT inanity from?).

Grizzly

At the end of the day its your car to do with as u wish.

You are on a Rotary Forum so dont be suprised when ever one takes the ****. I personly love the sound of a V8 and if properly tuned are very powerful but its just not my thing.

The car does look good though good luck with it and post some 1/4 times when u get down there.

V8RX7com

At first I just laughed when I read this guys post, but then I noticed he was from Australia...... then I started thinking maybe it’s just a matter of prospective depending on where you live. I live in Southern California where the RX-7 FC is not a rare or exotic vehicle. However here in California we have some of the toughest emission laws in the world. When it came to the performance of my RX-7 convertible I wanted to be able to drive it “legally” in California and not have to worry about getting pulled over and getting the car impounded for “illegal modifications” .... and yes some cops here will pull you over and check if they suspect something. It boiled down to 3 options for me,

#1. Learn to live with my stock legal N/A rotary powered convertible for what is was (slow)

#2 build the Rotary “illegally” to be quick but then be paranoid of cops and also not be able to pass state required emission tests resulting in a car that I could not register.

#3 Find a loophole in the law (like dropping in a V8)

I chose # 3

ScrapFC

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First off, to V8RX7: Great work. It takes some serious cajones to cut up a beautiful car like that for an expensive and time-consuming project with no real gaurantee of success. Second, I applaud you not only for getting through the misinformation and creating a one-of-a-kind, slick-*** beast of a ride. Ignore the wailing of the purists. It's your car, not theirs. Let them build concours cars if they want.
To all the flamers and haters: Get over it. There is no "sacred car". The RX7 is an incredible piece of Japanese engineering, but that doesn't mean it can't be improved. We still haven't heard how this thing does in a slalom or road course. Until we have a report on what it does in the real world, all this talk about destroying the handling is just a bunch of wanking. He's lowereed the cg with the aluminum heads, and it looks like the motor sits plenty low anyway. How is this worse than the power sunroof in most of the upscale models? (I believe they usually add about 80 lbs up in the roof)
Really, guys. give him credit and let's reserve any harsh judgement until we can spank him on a track.

Perry Gehenna

<looks at the ground, looks at the sky>
yes. Yes, that is eminently logical. fair enough. good job man.
the EPA (our emissions police) are not nearly as strict as the emissions police in California, tho things are starting to get heavy.
We *have* been basically getting away with running what-soever-the-**** we want here in Oz (vic) up until fairly recently.

whatever,
Perry Gehenna

ChrisV

Thanks for the comments!

To bring over something I said newr the end of the last thread:

We know the V8 weighs more than the rotary. The truth is it's not that much more, and with a little thought into it, the finished conversion will not upset the chassis. IF it can handle a fully loaded TII's weight with no problems, it can handle a non-loaded V8 with ease, and without upsetting the handling. You say it's comparing apples and oranges. I say it's what the chassis has to deal with. If it can handle a 2800lb stock TII, it can handle being a 2800 lb V8 car, when care is taken to remove some weight during the conversion, and shuffle around the rest (like the battery). No one I know who has done a conversion has NOT taken those factors into account. If you know someone who DID hack it together without thought, please show us. Yes, you can remove weight on the rotary version, too. But the point is, if the stocker works with suspension mods and no lightening, then the conversion will work as well at the same weight.

My personal modded '86 Sport model weighed 2720 after the conversion, with a 49/51 split f/r. As you said, the sunroof on a GXL or turbo adds more weight up top, so polar moment and CG are not that bad on a car not so equipped(look how low the engine sits in my car, in the pics I posted). My car pulled over 1 G before and after the conversion, and was, on street tires, in street trim, only a second behind the gutted RX7 on slicks now driven by Gretchen Everett in the NW SCCA region, and was driven to 3rd place in E-mod at the SCCA nats the year I was competing against it in the NW. Judging by my consistent results agains that car all year, I have no doubts that I could have placed in the top 5 in E-mod at the nats. On street tires. Yes, I can tell you that with a little care in setup, the car handled just fine. Again, if I can convert these Hi-8 videos, I can show people the car at an autocross...

BlackSport0187

I know what you mean, here in Oregon (in Eugene anyway) you can run whatever the hell you want. We have no emissions testing whatsoever. Hope it stays that way until I am too old to care.

IKe

krackerx7

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first why are on this forum you took out your rotary thats half the fun of owning a rx-7 and second you dont put your corn burna engine in a import you suck.