Fastest TT FD I Have Ever Seen! ***VID***
 

Right Click, Save As

The Deal's Gap meet was awesome. Seeing this car made it even better. :bigthumb:

well didnt really show the speed but sounds mean as hell
any more vids with it on the strip??

mike

damn!!!!! that shit is a beast!!!!! I wish i would have gone...

NIce, but why not jsut use a vette?

The question should be why use a Vette when you can do it with a car that weighs at least 300 lbs less (than a Z06) and costs much less.

I was told that this setup was just completed last week. I'm sure it will be at the strip very soon though. 8 second quarter miles anyone?

Not hating but the way we saw it run it wasnt very impressive. I am sure once it is tuned it will be totally different but for "1200 hp" I wasnt impressed. Not hating at all because I love the idea of LS1 swaps but I would have rather seen them bring a heads, cam car on spray that ran correctly. I think it would have been more entertaining to watch.
However, I cant wait to see what times he posts once tuned.

I can vouch for that monster TT FD. Hinson still has some bugs to sort out. But when they get everything situated, they hope to run mid to low 8's. That is with full interior, radio, carpet, and etc.

By the way Alan, nice meeting you man. I hope next meet you can bring your car. I would like to check it out. See ya man...

djseven,
Hinson said he wish he could have gotten it ready sooner, but they just got it first cranked a couple of days before Deal's Gap. Also, they got invited to the Hot Rod Street competition and I believe that is what they were shooting for, but was just giving us a glimpse of what to come.

I think it looks and sounds like $hit. Moves pretty good.
What's the deal with projected hp? :gay:

I completely understand that. Hints my comments. However, what I saw wasnt a 1200hp car. Potentially yes but not when I saw it. I am in no way hating on the car. IT is badass in every sense of the word but I dont want people thinking that that is all the car had. The video that is posted wont do that car justice in the future. Thats all.

Someone finsihed one of those LS1 conversions here in SD a few months ago. I've only seen it once so I am not sure if its turbo'd. The girlfriend did say it pops up when its gunned at a light.
They do sound pretty strange, and meaner ;)

Yes, the car was definitely not running to potential. I understand what you're saying djseven. I can see where bringing a well-running car is a better idea, but just looking under the hood is badass with that thing.

i cant get it to work
linky no worky

Leo, if you are thinking about going, let me know. I might go with you.

The difference is not that much lighter. A toruing FD is aobut 2800-2900lbs. Im not sure but I bet the LS1 motor wieghs more than the 13b also. z06 is only about 3000lbs. Why not jsut shave the weight anyway by removing the interior, its a race car is it not? Why bother with full interior if your building a 8 second car?

Anyway, for all that work,converson and money there isnt much "mazda" left in the car as of performance. He probably has a ford rear end/drivetrain. SO with all these parts and extra, I dont see the point of putting it in the FD other than for a personal challenge or headache.

To each his own.

:stick:

I totally agree and I have tons of pics to prove it ;)

A Z06 weighs at least 3100 lbs (closer to 3150). A regular C5 weighs over 3300 lbs. An LS1 FD weighs about 2800 lbs.

There are reasons why the car still has interior and resembles a street car. I'll let your imagination run wild there. That car was virtually untuned and running NO exhaust. It will quiet down SUBSTANTIALLY when tuned and running a full exhaust.

It does not have a Ford rear end. Mazda rear end with Kaaz and 3.9 gear.

I rode in a Touring with a nearly bone-stock LS1. It was VERY fast, and handled quite well considering it was riding on stock suspension on stock wheels.

But you're right...At the end of they day, to each his own.

"The Point" of putting an LS1 in the FD? It depends on who you ask. My reason is that the 13B will not achieve the horsepower that I want with the reliability and driveability that I demand.

I totally agree. If (when) my 13B goes (again) I will replace with a LS1. Hopefully that wont be anytime soon. :)

Badass car. I would love to have a full interior car that runs 8s on pump. That would rock.

A Kaaz rear end isn't going to stay together with 1200hp, neither will half the other parts on the car. It'll be interesting to hear what starts breaking when he gets above 600hp.

Can't wait to see more progress on the car. It would be REALLY nice to see it in street trim.. well, with AT LEAST an exhaust.. I love power, but will compromise for less db.

:)

I was expecting something much cooler than what was shown on that video. Has anyone got some engine bay pics to post?

-s-

I'd have to agree, it wasn't a good idea for them to even let people take pictures of it. It looks like a POS with no front clip etc. and seems to sit too high off the ground, like a 4x4.

I looked around at their website and couldn't find anything other than the RX7 stuff. Anybody have links to previous cars they've built with 1200hp dyno'd? or 8 second cars for that matter?

AFAIK, this is the first twin turbo setup they've done. Another Turbo LS1 they did made like 650whp at 15 psi with one 62-1. That car is running 2 of them.

http://www.alantripp.com/hinsontt.jpg

That's a LONG WAY from 1200hp.

Well, you know... the other car had one of those turbos, and made, like, 650 RWHP, so you, umm... double that because it has, like, two of them. :D

Hey, don't make me out to sound like a retard. :dunce: I'm just telling you guys what I was told. "We're estimating that it should make around 1200 hp." I don't see what's so unbelievable about 1200 hp though. 1200 crank hp = 1020 whp assuming 15% drivetrain loss. By no means am I claiming to be an expert on forced induction LS1s; however, the horsepower estimate does seem plausible if not probable. An efficient air-to-water intercooler setup chilling twice the volume of air that made 650 whp seems like it could get damn near close to 1000 whp.

One turbo will be plenty for me though. 600ish whp should be more than enough to make getting traction impossible. :p:

If not 1200 crank, what's your guess, Jim?

I've seen that 62-1 single LS1 run on the 1/4 mile track and ran low 10s all day long.
And sounded quieter than my pretty much stock fd.

It had full interior with stock rims and drag radials in hot summer alabama weather.

It took 650rwhp to get those times?! :rlaugh: I recall a couple rx7's hitting 10's with ~450rwhp. I could be mistaken, so someone correct me if i'm wrong. I think Kevin was one of them?!

-Alex

I never dyno'd my car, always track or street tuned, more accurate. I can only guess what HP numbers were based on the weight of the car and the 125mph peak in the 1/4. 650rwhp should put the car easily into the 9's although someone mentioned he uses a 390 rear. There's a lot involved in ET's though. He could have really crap 60' times and monster MPH on those low 10's. Either way it's faster than mine was.

I don't quite remember what the mph was but I'll try to find out.

what I was impressed about was how consistant it ran.

I've found a pic of one of the run. I guess he didn't run low 10s..

It ran 10.6 @ 132MPH..

https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...d=106554&stc=1
https://www.rx7club.com/attachment.p...d=106553&stc=1

why .... the link is not working for me ...
rehost plz

nice :)

Hey Phil,
Hinson said he is going to inform me when that take it out to the track. Also, you were referring to the Hot Rod shootout right? I would definitely be up for that. I can talk to Hinson and see when it will be. I have no clue about when and where it is going to be. Heard there was going to be some crazy fast cars there.

I sat with the guys from Hinson's during dinner at Deals Gap. They had the motor and drivetrain out of the car on Wednesday to fix some issues. They barely got it together in time, which explains why they didn't get the bumper put on. He gets the 1200hp out of the twins and a nitrous kit. I don't think he hit the nitrous on Saturday. The reason it sounds so bad is that the exhaust was dumping after the 4" downpipe under the passenger seat. He has been building this car for quite sometime and has had nothing break. They are going to try to Dyno the car this week. Pretty impressive to have a car be IHRA certified and street legal!

Getting a well built LS1 into 800-900 HP is easy with a proper setup on just heads and cam with a little giggle juice. Just say to each his own and wait for dyno numbers and ETs. I know a guy with an all motor 8 second car. Hell, with a TT setup and a little money, anything is possible. :D

:eek:

yeah its not working for me either

Keep in mind that Hinson is running a Powerglide.

If a NA LS1 FD with no accessories weighs in at just over 2800, how is a full interior LS1 FD with two LARGE turbos that aren't featherweights, piping, and a IC going to weigh the same? How is the handling with the turbos up that far forward?

From what I understand of the Hinson car's current state, the KSP TT 13B FD still remains faster.

Who really gives a shit about 1/4 mile times? I'd be more worried about assclowns building cars like this and then killing someone.

It's a neat project. Good craftsmanship, and has potential. Let's leave the HP numbers out of it shall we? Cause god knows the torque alone will scare the shit out of anyone with a 4-500 HP FD.. And then rape them.

Good question! :)

-Alex

I know of one LS1/FD running mid tens on a 75shot, and another running 11.4 on a shitty track, CA smog legal cam only...

You know, we'll see how Hinson does at the Hot Rod Pump Gas Drags, and roll with that...

BTW - you know what would be absolutely wonderful? If Hinson wins the thing, there will be a RX7 on the cover of Hot Rod. People will shit their pants like you wont believe!

-Jason

Is the link down? vid not working.

Actually, he has.

An RX7 with an LS1 isn't smog legal anywhere in California as far as I'm aware. How does that work in areas with smog testing and inspections since it's not legal to tamper with OEM smog systems let alone swapping a motor type?

On an oddball note, is it just me or is that drag strip downhill??? Fluke from how the camera is held or something?

edit: think it might be the uphill slow down segment is making the picture look downhill.

I don't think it goes downhill all the way, but it looks like there is a "hump" in the strip if you look at the left of the picture. After the "hump" it looks like it goes downhill. I don't think it has anything to do with the camera, prlly just a shitty track.

-Alex

Edit: I don't think so. If you look at the track, its going down, then back up towards the end. Kind of like it's wanting to make a U.

I have been trying not to say anything about this thing .. but 4 pages in such a short time ? I have to put my querys in .
There are many thing that i have questions about this car . Running low 8 ? 1200hp ? i will believe that when i see it but how does putting in a heavier engine help in getting you get lower 1/4 times . Just think chassis+LS1+twinturbo+intercooler+misc= more than 2800lbs i am thinking more like 3000+lbs .

Unless he is thinking of traveling only in a straight line on the streets , he might have some serious bumpsteer issues. Hope he seam welded and added support for the suspension mountings with all that extra weight in front .

ps; this thread should really but in the other engine conversions sub forum , not here ..

haha..it would seem like i be hating huh ... at least it makes a good noise when started and running .... even with a poor tune

Hey I am trying the link to see that car but is not working. Anyone have a link to it or a file that dosen't mind hosting somewhere?