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icecreaman 03-09-07 01:19 PM


Originally Posted by anewconvert
So stop wasting your time.

Just because he wants to shoot for some reliability doesnt mean that all he cares about is reliability. If that was the case he wouldnt be driving a rotary, let alone a turbocharged one. Its clear that he is trying to make some power, but doesnt feel the need to make every last hp at the expense of reliability. There is NOTHING wrong with that.

It gets really tiresome watching you parade around here with your chest puffed out like you are some kind of god. Great you have 23k posts. Awesome. You would think by now you wouldnt waste your time flaming new guys for asking a question. That you would have, at some point, grown(up) out of it. yet I constantly see you doing it. Whats the point? Bumping up your post total so you can puff up a little more? Making you feel better when you wake up? Trying to be funny?

"HAHA Did you guys see that?! I put soap in his coffee! Take that you fucking rookie!"

get over yourself.


BC

and if you do read this, dont bother replying. Save it for some other post I make. Im not going to check this thread again. So spend a few minutes right now, come up with a witty, razorsharp reply, write it down so you wont forget it, and use it next time I dare to challenge the great RETed. You can start it out with something about not understanding why I drive an FC cause I didnt get TII. I look forward to it.

I think you also missed the point, that is why i wanted the original post stickied. Your car makes the MOST power UNDER THE SAFEST CONDITIONS.
you LOSE power by pingging, have too much timing, too little timing, too lean, too rich, on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on.

the point to the whole thing that everyone needs to get is, ON A DYNO the most hp is acheived at the same time that the safest numbers are acheived - based on your boost of course.
If you run more boost than your engine likes, that is a different story.
Noone is busting anyones balls here, if you new and want to learn something, then read the first post! regardless if it has some arrogence in it..... i think the 'annoyance' is coming that every post is already answered in the original post, just like 'can i turbo my NA?', its already been discussed!
If you have something else more specific, then ask. the newest was 'what AF do you run' I said mid 12's, then prolly down to 12.1 at the end just in case of boost creep or something.
Newest question is what is safest AF, not sure. I think that is A. engine dependent, and B. opinionated
since i have never blown an engine, i say my original answer stands as my new answer, but i am not your motor. Will you be safer the richer possible? Yes, but you waste gas, kill your brain cells, polute the earth and make less power

88turbotime 03-09-07 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by RETed
I don't know why you own an FC or any sports car for that matter.
If all you cared about is reliability (and not power), why not own a Toyota Corolla / Tercel / Camry?

Because having a safe-running TII is still a hell of a lot more fun that driving a tercel, and I already have a reliable daily driver. I dont think its a crime to have a car thats fun to drive and still not want to worry about the engine blowing up.


Originally Posted by RETed
I actually stated how to make safe power, but I guess you didn't understand that part of my reply.

I guess you're right. You said (paraphrased, because i dont want to go back and find exaclty what you said), "tune for the most power, then add a little fuel, and there you go." That is a great reply, and probably a good answer. But at one point i was making a lot more power than i am now, but my AFRs were in the 15s, and I have NEVER heard anyone say that is safe on a turbo rotary. Therefore I am looking for other people's opinions, as well as considering your input. I appreciate you (at first) trying to help, but I could do without condescending remarks just because I dont know everything there is to know about my car and you obviosly do.

RETed 03-09-07 08:47 PM


Originally Posted by anewconvert
So stop wasting your time.

Just because he wants to shoot for some reliability doesnt mean that all he cares about is reliability. If that was the case he wouldnt be driving a rotary, let alone a turbocharged one. Its clear that he is trying to make some power, but doesnt feel the need to make every last hp at the expense of reliability. There is NOTHING wrong with that.

Then you're another one who didn't get my point about how to tune for safe power...


It gets really tiresome watching you parade around here with your chest puffed out like you are some kind of god. Great you have 23k posts. Awesome. You would think by now you wouldnt waste your time flaming new guys for asking a question. That you would have, at some point, grown(up) out of it. yet I constantly see you doing it. Whats the point? Bumping up your post total so you can puff up a little more? Making you feel better when you wake up? Trying to be funny?
I really don't give a shit what you think about me.
If you're going to infer all of that crap, then that's your problem, not mine
I don't do this to pad my post count; if you got a problem with the post count, then go bitch to the admins.
I don't care if my post count is where it is or back down to "0".
Maybe you can ask the admin to reset my post count?



"HAHA Did you guys see that?! I put soap in his coffee! Take that you fucking rookie!"

get over yourself.
You're making a lot of (wrong) conclusions just through my postings on here.
That makes you look really stupid.
If that's how you just people, then I don't know what to say...



and if you do read this, dont bother replying. Save it for some other post I make. Im not going to check this thread again. So spend a few minutes right now, come up with a witty, razorsharp reply, write it down so you wont forget it, and use it next time I dare to challenge the great RETed. You can start it out with something about not understanding why I drive an FC cause I didnt get TII. I look forward to it.
How about I do you one better...a favor?
I'll just add you to my ignore list.
Done.


-Ted

No_Rotor_RX7 03-10-07 10:27 AM

i agree with the 12:1 afr's for anything under 10psi on a stock turbo... honestly i like to not flood out with running stupid rich, but more so using my timing to keep it safe :)

junito1 03-10-07 12:50 PM

yeah yeah... keep the tuning info coming!!!!

I should have an ems in my car by summer.(if my 7 doesnt keep having gay as problems.)

FCKing1995 04-02-07 06:20 PM

Christ. You people. The guy was looking for a simple number answer, not a 2 page debate, most of which didnt give him an answer he was looking for. As long as you can keep it less than 13 and higher than 10.5 or 11 across the board you should be safe and make ok power at the same time. Anything above 13 to me is too close to stoich, and less than 10.5 gets into the cant breath for the fumes category. Idealy, you would tune for best hp, but this way is just as good as long as you dont mind a few hp loss here and there. Hope that helps a bit. Thats by no means a definitive answer but what I like to go by.

Ted, you need to settle the fuck down and stop being a dick to everyone. The majority of the posts you make are similar to these. Your disrespectful and rude. Someone needs to knock your teeth down your throat so you learn some goddamn respect for other people, and stop being such a douche all the time. You may gove helpful info, but that doesnt mean you have to be rude all the time. You represent your state very well. I hope the rest of the population isnt as asshat like as you.

RETed 04-03-07 06:56 AM


Originally Posted by FCKing1995
Ted, you need to settle the fuck down and stop being a dick to everyone. The majority of the posts you make are similar to these. Your disrespectful and rude. Someone needs to knock your teeth down your throat so you learn some goddamn respect for other people, and stop being such a douche all the time. You may gove helpful info, but that doesnt mean you have to be rude all the time. You represent your state very well. I hope the rest of the population isnt as asshat like as you.

If you have nothing useful to contribute, then you're waste our time.
It just shows how ignorant you are on the subject.
I'll put you on IGNORE too.


-Ted

FCKing1995 04-03-07 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by RETed
If you have nothing useful to contribute, then you're waste our time.
It just shows how ignorant you are on the subject.
I'll put you on IGNORE too.


-Ted

I contributed more than your ass did on this topic asshole. At least my reply was relevant to his question. Too bad you cant see this since Im on ignore :fawk: As if I give 2 shits. :icon_tup:

cpubugs 04-25-07 09:55 PM


Originally Posted by 88turbotime
But now im starting to wonder how many of your 23,000 posts are just flaming noobs.

lol... ted my wife bought me a shirt it says I will try being nicer if you try being smarter.... I think it applies here. You guys have to understand ted's frustration with all of us noobs coming in and getting a little knowledge and then doing dumb things.. We see it as our first screw up or dumb thing, Ted has been around a while he has seen the projects come and go and he knows how flaky people are so when you come in acting like you are acting and wanting advice and then argueing wth the advise or asking for advise when you mess something up or order something off of ebay when you could have asked before hand and he could have saved you the pain and suffering. These guys are seasoned vets of the rotary world and he doesn't mean to belittle you but read your posts man...


I guess it is my personal preference willingness to learn and be teachable but I would much rather listen to someone like Ted who will get in my face to help me avoid making a mistake than some pansy who will let me screw up my car cause I am being stupid. thats all I have to say on the topic.

RX7Tuner. 04-26-07 06:45 PM

Wow, a Ted fan. I never thought I would see the day. I'm glad you think Ted's knowledge and experience justifies him to dehumanize people and belittle them. Ted has answered some of my questions and helped me out but what I see is someone who simply enjoys antagonizing people. I wonder what he's like in person?

cpubugs 04-26-07 08:13 PM

I bet he is the same in person. I like to antagonize as well but that is really not the case here.... You don't ask for advise and then argue when someone knowledgable tries to help. thats all... I think most of you old school forum guys get a bit jerky with the noobs.. ted just does it with flare. So yeah I guess I am a Ted fan.. lol

My5ABaby 04-27-07 08:27 AM

No clue if you're going to read this... but Ted, I really wish you would be less of an ass. I can tell that you know what you're talking about and could really help out the community a lot more than you do. Your post about tuning earlier was very informative. However, it was followed by posts that made me want to ignore what you said.

Just because you know more than other people about something doesn't make them stupid. Ignorance != stupidity. You had to learn somehow too.

I'll probably make it to your ignore list (if I'm not already), but it's sound advice. Someday you'll grow up and realize that belittling people is something that only reflects badly upon yourself.

RX7Tuner. 04-27-07 08:35 AM


Originally Posted by My5ABaby
Someday you'll grow up and realize that belittling people is something that only reflects badly upon yourself.


Could not have said it better myself.


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