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Old May 30, 2007 | 09:16 AM
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245 rwhp @ 6psi

1991 Turbo, Newly rebuilt (just broken in) pineapple racing engine, with a small street port, stage 3 oil mods.

Car also has racing beat exhaust and cone intake.

This run was on a dynodynamics dyno, which is about the stingiest in the industry.

Based on the dyno owners correction factor he put the engine at right around 300HP @ 6psi. His correction factor agreed almost exactly with the stock mazdaspeed cars that made runs the same day. The MS3s were putting 220 to the ground front wheel.

I certainly dont plan to turn the boost up as I am at my safe limit for injectors already. 550/750

I'm really happy with my new motor, nice work pineapple.
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Old May 30, 2007 | 11:01 AM
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nice! what turbo and ecu?
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Old May 30, 2007 | 11:09 AM
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RE Stage B ECU with SAFCII
Stock Turbo with a wastegate spacer.
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Old May 30, 2007 | 11:45 AM
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Stock turbo?
I call bullshit...


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Old May 30, 2007 | 11:58 AM
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I dunno what to tell you. I bought the turbo as a "new mazda unit" from japan. Other than a few little differences in fittings and that wastegate spacer it looks stock, the wheels both look stock when side by side with my old stock unit. The housings are definetly the same.
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Old May 30, 2007 | 12:02 PM
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a wastegate spacer.
what's that?
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Old May 30, 2007 | 12:11 PM
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https://www.rx7club.com/2nd-generation-specific-1986-1992-17/s5-stock-wastegate-j-spec-vs-spec-436262/
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Old May 30, 2007 | 01:02 PM
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Old May 30, 2007 | 02:37 PM
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i guess that street port along with a new motor(perfect compression) makes the difference.
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Old May 30, 2007 | 09:47 PM
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Adjusting the numbers, on a DynoJet, it should make way over 250 at the wheels.
We're talking in the range of 260 to 270 at the wheels...

With a standalone + FMIC, it MIGHT hit those numbers over 10psi.

No ways it'll hit it at 6psi.
No ways it'll do this on a stock ECU which requires the stock AFM.
That turbo can't be stock if the numbers are that high.

If the power numbers are right, your fuel injectors are close to maxing out.

Something just smells fishy...


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It is a rom tuned ECU so the timing is not stock, i know that much. Then we tuned the mixtures with the SAFC.

I already realize the fuel injectors are basically at thier max safe duty cycle. That is why I will not be turning up the boost. Well that and if the turbo is stock this is about the best it will do, any more and it will become a big heat gun.

Trust me man, It surprised me more than anyone.

I have the boost/AFR curves from the same run, ill upload it. It was pig rich in thie mid-high RPMs and I brought the AFRs after the fact in line some more after that, but it does show the boost curve which peaks at 8psi at around 5500 RPM. Then it falls off as the gate pressure overcomes the boost creep or the turbo loses efficiency (or maybe a little of both). But the power still climbs right to redline. The 245 was at redline as you can see above.
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Little known secret...
Ignition timing does not affect power that much.


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Old May 31, 2007 | 08:38 AM
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i can believe it. mine made about the same power, but my boost peaked at 9psi, bleed off to 7psi at redline, yet still making about 248whp at redline. this is with stock S4 block & turbo
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Old May 31, 2007 | 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by RETed
Little known secret...
Ignition timing does not affect power that much.


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Right, that is what I have heard about rotaries especially. Ive never really messed with timing to see for myself. And it is also the reason I havnt really botherd to worry about the ROM tune.
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Old May 31, 2007 | 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by gxl90rx7
i can believe it. mine made about the same power, but my boost peaked at 9psi, bleed off to 7psi at redline, yet still making about 248whp at redline. this is with stock S4 block & turbo
What dyno?


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Old May 31, 2007 | 02:00 PM
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300whp on 6psi? no way on a stock turbo. You need much more mods.
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Old May 31, 2007 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by RETed
What dyno?


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dynomite dyno
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Old May 31, 2007 | 06:35 PM
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I made 250whp on 15psi with a stock s5 turbo. stock injectors were running 99% duty cycle.
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Old Jun 3, 2007 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by turbodrx7
300whp on 6psi? no way on a stock turbo. You need much more mods.
Left field comment. Car is making 245 rwhp, 300 "crank". I never claimed or am looking to attain 300 rw.
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Old Jun 3, 2007 | 09:20 PM
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Originally Posted by gxl90rx7
i can believe it. mine made about the same power, but my boost peaked at 9psi, bleed off to 7psi at redline, yet still making about 248whp at redline. this is with stock S4 block & turbo
What mods did you have done?
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 02:32 PM
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What mods did you have done?
rtek 2.0, 750cc/1000cc injectors, walbro 255, 3" exhaust, cold intake, fmic, tb mod
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 03:58 PM
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nice,
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Old Jun 4, 2007 | 10:45 PM
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I might have added i also have a rewired walbro.
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Old Jun 5, 2007 | 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by gxl90rx7
rtek 2.0, 750cc/1000cc injectors, walbro 255, 3" exhaust, cold intake, fmic, tb mod
sweet... hey i must be out of the loop, whats the throttle body mod?
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Old Jun 6, 2007 | 12:19 AM
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sweet... hey i must be out of the loop, whats the throttle body mod?
closing the loop. the TB mod is when you purposely remove the dashpot actuated butterfly valves in the TB. ie direct control over the TB with the bas peddal. no more, you floor it and it opens slowly. if you floor it now from idle it wil bog. you will need to control your right foot more but it does give better feedback and response from the throttle - my opinion. it's also rumored to reduce restriction in the intake.

Link - http://fc3spro.com/TECH/HOWTO/TBM/tbm.html

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