D CUPS

iTrader: (1)

1: Will my 19x10 wheel fit the Burnout rear WBK? Is the 20mm rear Burnout flare enough?
2: Does the original rear fender have to be cut out to fit it?
3: Should I go 50mm Chargespeed rear widebody instead - or is that too much?
4: Will 3 degrees of camber help?
5: How much is the KS Auto Burnout rear Flare (as the pair only) ?


"I have a good excuse to go widebody at the rears now lol"

Thanks to the guys in the Wheel tech section, yes im crazy for going to this rear offset but im really happy to do it.

I now have a 5 deep hole in my wallet - so these "rear qtr only" flare or wide body guard plans put me behind a few months

SSR Professor SP1's
19x9 +24 fronts and 19x10 +11 rears.

Im so far hands down on the KS-Auto "rear qtr ONLY"

How much camber setting can you get out of the rear wheels?

The rear sticks 1inch out of the rear guards and the front sit perfectly flush with the guards














BTW - once the rear qtr wbk is on it will be sitting lower than how it looks in todays pics I had to raise it because if I hit a bump on the way home my rear guard will get buckled :shock:

crazyrx7

I don't know the answer but thats a hot looking car!!!!!

R.K.

fc3sdrifterz

yeah that is a hot lookin car

rynberg

So you didn't listen to our advice, eh?

1. If you are running proper tires (275 or 285 width), I seriously doubt it.
2. Yes.
3. Well, if you go with 50mm fenders, that would probably work, but then you could have gotten away with a wider wheel. With 50mm, the wheels will be tucked in a hair.
4. NO and that would be a stupid amount of camber to run on these cars....you would have poor straightline grip and stability and would wear those $300+ tires out in a couple of thousand miles.
5. Contact a dealer! Shine Auto in the USA makes a replica kit as well, they are a forum vendor.

wptrx7

Dam that was a bit harsh.

What size tires are you running?

Howard Coleman

iTrader: (6)

yes you could make the Burnout flares work with certain qualifications.

i am just finishing installing mine so i am familiar w the process and clearances. i will be posting a detailed install w lots of pics shortly.

i am running an 18 X 10.5 rear wheel w 30 offset. my current tires are toyo 285/35/18. the flares w no alterations fit perfectly and i could take another 1/8 from the lip if i wished.

your wheels are offset 11 in the rear but they are 1/2 inch narrower than mine so you are outboard .5 of an inch to me. i have 3/8th clearance at the narrowest spot and i have an 1/8th plus of additional lip i could remove.

you could easily outspace the flares up to 3/8 of an inch also w additional filler.

the flares. IMO, look very good as they blend into the car well.

i like the minimalist concept that the Burnouts provide. i do not know your tire size but suggest 285 as a max if you run more than that you might not be able to make them work. also the 19 inch wheel might be a tad of an issue but probably o k.

i run 25 inch ride height BTW. i also removed the coil over and ran the tire thru full travel and everything is fine at 1.2 degrees static camber.

email Ken at Shine for availability/pricing. i am favorably impressed w the quality, fit and finish of the flares.

good luck,

howard coleman

7syawedis

iTrader: (1)

try at least 2 degrees camber and either flare you should be able to get it to work, i personally say burnout it will end up more flush and look better if you can make it work. but not with a full sized tire man. wider tires maybe try the 50mm.
i almost picked up a similair set but 18s, about same width and offsets. 19s is crazy, i went to 17s just so it would be that much easier to fit crazy sizes. good luck. they look great

rynberg

Running 2 deg camber on 19s would be dumb, as I pointed out above. Howard gave some great real world advice. I would stick with 275/30 or 285/30 19 tires. Those are quite a bit taller than stock but are your only wide options in 19. It looks like the Burnout fenders will work with maybe a little modification.

Howard Coleman

iTrader: (6)

running 2 degrees camber to make the flares fit makes as much sense as draining all the oil out of your motor to lighten your car.

shineautoproject

iTrader: (11)

First of all, sick looking car man

The burnout flares are only 20mm wider. Judging from your second picture, that might not be wide enough.

I am running 20mm fenders in the rear and my wheels are 10.5 +27 , but I still think i can go a bit wider. Im also running 275/35/19

and PM me once you decide


And yes you will have to cut up your beautiful car.

7_rocket

iTrader: (6)

Why 19s on a fd?

wptrx7

Because not everyone races/tracks.

Ken, aren't 35s to tall?

joe-c

iTrader: (2)

nice

D CUPS

iTrader: (1)

cheers for the advice and tips guys.

I rarely drive my FD....its a project car and sits in the garage and gathers dust until there is a new modification to do to it, taking it out on a car cruise or show.
I usually take the family car whenever I take my 2 kids to school before I go to work......the Mrs tells me all the time to sell the FD, and im like NO frikn way man hehe.

I guess its the same thing with the guy's FD at KS-Auto....he aint going to track that hehe.

thanks Mr Shine Auto! Would love to buy from you but Japan is closer here so Im going to buy front and rear genuine fenders from KS Auto + it sounds like you are heaps busy.





Got my guards lipped and -3 Camber all around (also Toe In's fixed nicely and wheels all aligned)
Im still able to drive around with the rears on, they DO scrub only when I hit some nasty bumps. Pretty good (not for the tyres running on camber though) for a stock body fit with that dish......it is too a good indication that the Burnout rear flare will definetly fit if the rear tyres are slightly scrubbing.

In a few months time I shall be getting the Burnout rear flares so I definetly wont have any issues with scrubbing...but for now here are some more pics after the work done today.

FRONTS




REARS















SCRUBBING HERE (in red)




Does anyone know where I can buy adjustable camber arms for my FD?

http://www.myspace.com/dj_chesta
my web page above.

goreify

iTrader: (3)

1: Yes, The KS Auto Demo car runs 19x10 +6 in the rear, as long as you dont plan to run gigantic tires it can easily be done, you wont need anywhere near 3 degrees of camber either.
2: Yes, thats the whole purpose of wide fenders.
3: Definetly not necessary, this can easily be done with the burnout fenders.
4: Not necessary.
5: Ask Shine Auto Ken :]

Rynberg, heres proof it fits. 18x9 +6 front. 19x10 +6 rear, which is listed right on the KS Auto site.

rynberg

There is no need since the stock FD suspension is fully adjustable.... 3 deg of camber is insane!

Once again, when I say a wheel "fits", it means it fits without compromise for performance. The KS Auto pic clearly shows a) a lot of camber, and b) a stretched tire, probably a 255/30. To me that's a compromise for looks as a 10" wide wheel should be rocking a 275 or 285 tire.

Like I said, some of us have different definitions of the word "fit".

wptrx7

What size tires are you running? Did you get a price quote from Shine yet? I would if I were you, and also find out availibilty, just cause you are closer to Japan, won't mean you will get them cheaper or sooner.

Luigi

goreify

iTrader: (3)

I'm not going to get into another pissing contest, but like you said we all have our own opinion on what "fits" and in my opinion, a 255 on a 10 is not compromising performance whatsoever, there is nothing wrong with a mild stretch. it gives a more precise feel to the car and eliminates sidewall flex. And I know this has been stated before, but the KS Auto fenders are really NOT that much wider... ive seen and examined them in person and compared to a stock fender there really is not that much room, the burnout fenders are FOR LOOKS. Dont think your going to buy these fenders and cram 325s under them because thats not what they were made for. They were made to do exactly what the burnout demo car does, bigger wheels, lower offsets, wider stance.

D CUPS

iTrader: (1)

Hey Luigi,

with Tyres im running 265/30 for the rears and 235/35 fronts.

Yeah, think I should ask Shine Auto first, ive also PM'd someone here because they are also selling just the rear flares.

-Chester

bolo_fd

iTrader: (2)

not only that but he improves on the original product with better fit read his thread for the feed fenders

bolo_fd

iTrader: (2)

for people here running 20mm rear fenders do u have to cut the original fenders or would rolling it be fine?

don't know what size rims and tires i will be running yet.

wptrx7

I purchased a few items from Shine and everything is of great qualty. I got the rear fender flares from him as well, but only to have a motorcycle/fab shop make it out of metal for me (yes, I know it maybe expensive).

The only reason for cutting the stock fenders after installation of the Burnout rear fender is for more aggressive offsets and to have less chance of rubbing with those offsets.

eyecandy

iTrader: (19)

ooops wrong thread