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Old 04-22-03, 10:57 AM
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I have the same problem that you guys have, I have the eibach supre low springs and the tokico shocks. My wheels hit the lining and the lip. I have lost two tires from the lip slicing them in half while I was driving. Would the allignment trick work for me or should I try to get smaller tires and wheels. I have Rp01s with 235/45-17 on right now.

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Old 05-11-03, 09:56 PM
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Lowered and bigger rims/tyres??!?!

Mine is stock. Stock height, stock rims, stock tyres. And it still rubs the wheel liners!
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[i] I have lost two tires from the lip slicing them in half while I was driving.


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Eric,

Have your fender lips "rolled" by a body shop. That stopped my car from rubbbing against thel lip. I also recently switched from the Eibach Pro Kit springs to M2 Coil Overs conversion springs, that use stiffer 550/450 Eibach springs, that also enable me to raise the the ride height. No more rubbing, but a much harsher ride.
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All I have changed suspension wise is putting Tokico Illuminas and Power Stops all around. Before doing this, I never had a problem with either front tire rubbing. Now, both do badly. What I keep seeing posted is this starting after changing the ride height or the tire size. Since I am still running on the stock wheels with original size tires with the stock springs, did the struts change the ride height?

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Old 05-16-03, 09:08 PM
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no rub for me 235/40/18frt 275/35/18rr.9"borbet wheels all around. stock susp. i now have a set of jic flta2 to put on i hope i do not have a problem.
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Originally posted by jpandes
Eric,

Have your fender lips "rolled" by a body shop. That stopped my car from rubbbing against thel lip. I also recently switched from the Eibach Pro Kit springs to M2 Coil Overs conversion springs, that use stiffer 550/450 Eibach springs, that also enable me to raise the the ride height. No more rubbing, but a much harsher ride.
can you post some pics of what your fenders look like now?
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Just lowered my car with tein coilovers about 2.5 inches and was rubbing all 4 corners. 18x8.5 and 18x10. Was planning to roll the fenders, but had a friend that did it and started to crack the paint so, decided to cut the inner fenders about 1/4 inch and no rub at all and no crack paint. Took awhile to do but way worth it!
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Originally posted by shawnk
A while ago I heard or read somewhere that the FD was designed with the right side being a bit higher at rest without driver so when a driver got in it would be level (designed as a RHD that is). When they produced LHD they didnt change that and so the right is higher without anyone in driver seat and when someone gets into the drivers side (left) it gets even worse. Of course I cant remember where I saw it but it seemed to make sense to me ....
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This is absolutely correct as far as I'm concerned. When I first noticed the left side was lower, I removed the strut/spring assembly as a whole and switched sides. To my surprise, the left side was STILL lower after the switch. So the difference definitely was not in the struts/springs.

It therefore leaves no other solution other than the car was engineered to have the right side higher so that when a Japanese driver sits on the right side (a right hand drive car ofcourse) the car would be perfectly level.

On my car, the difference is a little over 1/2 an inch

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I actually noticed that the car does not settle into the exact same ride height every time. When I come to a stop at any one time it can vary slightly, maybe by 1/4", on either side. I too get rubbing in the fenderwell (not the lip, just in the liner) under hard cornering with STOCK springs and wheels. I have Koni yellows but they are set to the highest perch. I think its either my upper mounts are worn out, the sway bar mounts are loose, or the ball joints are worn, as all of those can contribute to rubbing. What is bothersome is Mazda routed wires underneath the fender liner, that is why it bulges into the wheelwell. I've noticed the small hole has exposed some wiring. If it gets any worse it could begin damaging it. I don't know how people get away with running such low ride heights without rubbing, they must not be cornering hard enough .
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I actually noticed that the car does not settle into the exact same ride height every time. When I come to a stop at any one time it can vary slightly, maybe by 1/4", on either side. I too get rubbing in the fenderwell (not the lip, just in the liner) under hard cornering with STOCK springs and wheels. I have Koni yellows but they are set to the highest perch. I think its either my upper mounts are worn out, the sway bar mounts are loose, or the ball joints are worn, as all of those can contribute to rubbing. What is bothersome is Mazda routed wires underneath the fender liner, that is why it bulges into the wheelwell. I've noticed the small hole has exposed some wiring. If it gets any worse it could begin damaging it. I don't know how people get away with running such low ride heights without rubbing, they must not be cornering hard enough .
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Originally posted by jdtanksley
All I have changed suspension wise is putting Tokico Illuminas and Power Stops all around. Before doing this, I never had a problem with either front tire rubbing. Now, both do badly. What I keep seeing posted is this starting after changing the ride height or the tire size. Since I am still running on the stock wheels with original size tires with the stock springs, did the struts change the ride height?

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I've got Tokico's but no power stops. No rub here. What are power stops?
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Another idea

Check your bumpstops - you really shouldn't be hitting them in the first place, but if they are worn and your suspension bottoms out in a big freeway dip or something, they will stop you in some cases from hitting your wheel well liner.
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mine rubs, for some reason just the f@#$#$# left front one. 17x8 with 235's on. there's a whole in the wheel liner and now it's working it's way into the wires??????
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curious, you fellas that have the hole's worn through the liner and such...are your FD's daily drivers/driven a lot?
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I was able to get another suspension set-up and stop the rubbing before I wore the liner all the way through.

M2 CoilOver conversion springs, Tokico 5 ways, & Sway bars. No more rubbing.
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left front sits lower

My left front sits approx a half inch lower than right front and my left front rubs sometimes (on the lip). My setup includes: koni yellows at their highest setting, racing beat springs (.75" drop in front), bbs rx 17x8 rims with 235/40/17 in front. I also have 1.5 degree negative camber to tuck the tops of the tires in a bit away from where they rub.

My battery is about due to be replaced. At 40 pounds, do you guys think it will make much difference to relocate it to the RIGHT rear storage bin w/ a smaller 25 lb battery? Surely can't hurt but I'm thinking the difference won't be very significant.

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