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Old Mar 7, 2010 | 12:35 AM
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Bought some 18" wed sport wheels and now everytime I hit a bump in the road my front wheels rum. They rub my fenders when turning right or left and hitting a dip or bump in the road. Can buy some coilovers but not sure what to buy. Cars a daily driver not a track car. Tried searching some threads but they were talking about track cars forever. Can't spend days searching too busy. Any suggestions? Need help!
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Old Mar 7, 2010 | 07:14 AM
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what's the rim width? what size tires are you running? what springs and shocks do you have?
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Old Mar 7, 2010 | 07:52 AM
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Did you roll the front fenders yet?
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Old Mar 7, 2010 | 08:34 AM
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More info on your set up needed, but at the very least, you'll likely need to roll your fenders.
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Old Mar 7, 2010 | 08:37 AM
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Wheels are 18 x 8 front and 18 x 10 rear. I'll have to go check tire sizes again. Tire size was suggested by seller. They are very low profile though. Have a 94 R2. Still have stock suspension. Don't know what rolling the fenders means. I know I may seem a little ignorant but we all have a starting point to learn from. Thanks for any help in advance.
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Old Mar 7, 2010 | 09:02 AM
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If you look on the bottom inside of the fender, you'll see it resembles an "L" shape. The tire can catch the lower part of the "L" and bend it (as well as tear up the tire a little). The idea is to "roll" the bottom part of the "L" so the tire doesn't catch on it.
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Old Mar 7, 2010 | 09:13 AM
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Okay, tire sizes are as follows. 235/40 zr 18 95w xl front. 265/35 zr 18 97 w xl rear.
Posting some pics as well. Thanks Mahjik. Now I know what you mean. Already got snagged on the lip. I will have to roll the fenders asap. Any suggestions on a suspension upgrade?
Attached Thumbnails Wheels rub-rx7.jpg   Wheels rub-rx7-rub.jpg  
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Old Mar 7, 2010 | 09:38 AM
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For a street car, I would recommend Tein Flex if you are going coilovers. If you just want a suspension upgrade, take a look at Tokico's new offering:

http://www.raceinspired.com/p-6719-t...1993-1996.aspx

If you want to get a little more aggressive with the stance of the car, get the Tokico HTS shocks without the springs. Then pair them with some H&R lowering springs.
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Old Mar 7, 2010 | 11:40 AM
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Or he could just buy teins, stance, kw, hsd, bc, apexi or any other full coilover on the market under $2k......
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Old Mar 7, 2010 | 12:18 PM
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This is a common occurrance with virtually any aftermarket wheel set-up, since most are either taller or have less wheel offset than the factory wheels/tires. FD fenders and wheel wells are just extra vulnerable given their size and shape.

Coilovers (lowering) will only make this worse... gotta roll the fenders.
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Old Mar 7, 2010 | 12:24 PM
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I don't understand the lowering springs concept. If my tires already rub why would I want to go lower? Apexi n1 exv coilovers any good? They seem afordable.
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Old Mar 7, 2010 | 12:27 PM
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With coilovers I can adjust the front end to be a little stiffer which will help correct? You can adjust coilovers that way correct?
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Old Mar 7, 2010 | 12:46 PM
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Yes for the most part you can, but it depends on the brand of coilovers too.
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Old Mar 7, 2010 | 12:50 PM
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Either you already have lowering springs on the car or your stock suspension is sagging. Once you take care of the fender rolling, you can drop the car lower for an aggressive stance. Something like this which is low but not overly low:



As for the inexpensive coilovers, a lot of them (not all) have crappy components. i.e. dampers that aren't QA'd so you end up with variances at each corner... rough ride... components that fail prematurely... etc... This is why I didn't recommend them. If you want to go cheap, go for it as it's your car. The cheapest coilovers I would recommend would be Stance. However, they have a high spring rate by default (12k/12k) unless you specify something less. As I mentioned, Tein Flex are ideal for a car that is mainly street driven with some aggressive driving thrown in.

As for the adjustability, you have height adjustablility as well as the dampening. Most aftermarket shocks have adjustable dampening themselves; coilovers just add the height adjustment.
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Old Mar 7, 2010 | 01:04 PM
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YYou could also get lower profile tires or more negative camber
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Old Mar 7, 2010 | 07:20 PM
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Mahjik, in that pic you posted your tires aren't rubbing? Looks like your tires fill the wheel well. So if I roll my fenders (which I'm going to do) I can just get some aftermarket shocks that have adjustable dampening and I shouldn't rub anymore. That sounds great. I really appreciate all the input guys. It's been a great help. So now just roll fenders and make up my mind on aftermarket shocks or coilovers.
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Old Mar 7, 2010 | 07:30 PM
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No they aren't rubbing and those are 255's on a 17x9; the fenders are rolled. If you roll the fenders and stiffen up the suspension a little, you should be fine. Whether that's with coilovers or a shock/spring combo, you should be set but rolling the fenders is a must.
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Old Mar 7, 2010 | 07:33 PM
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Going to get that done next week!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old Mar 7, 2010 | 11:31 PM
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Looks like you need to roll the fenders, perhaps pull them slightly (hard to do on front fenders, but I believe most of the time rolling the front results in a slight pull since the sheet metal is usually very thin) and maybe adjust your camber settings.

Should be fine after that. If not you'll have to try a different tyre size to get the best clearance.

Good luck
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