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Old May 28, 2008 | 10:02 AM
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Shipping: Cardboard disc method. Please chime in if sucessfully used.

Hi All,

I've shipped wheel/tire combos MANY times in the past using the cardboard disc method (cut out 2 cardboard discs just larger that the rim face and place one over the front, one over the back, wrap with packaging tape generously, optionally some saran or plastic shrink wrap over the whole thing). I recall Tire Rack and other sellers sending them this way to me as well.

I need to hear from folks who have shipped them this way sucessfully. FedEx has damaged a set of wheels/tires that I shipped to a buyer this month and claims are VIRTUALLY IMPOSSIBLE to resolve. I just want to have some additional proof to give to FedEx before I resort to taking them to small claims court.

Please help me by indicating whether you have used this method and if the recipient received the wheels/tires without damage.

Thanks!

Daniel
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Old May 28, 2008 | 11:53 AM
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We ship wheels out of the shop I work at all day long in almost the same method. 1 layer bubble wrap, 2 layers of "styrofoam paper", and then 2 layers of cardboard, taped all around.
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Old May 28, 2008 | 01:04 PM
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Ive shipped at least half a dozen sets of wheels/tires via UPS like this, never had a problem. If they are wheels alone (no tires), I use boxes.
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Old May 28, 2008 | 07:09 PM
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you problem is shipping wheels with fedex, the have a way of screwing up every set of wheels i've ever attempted to ship. boxes are the way to go
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Old May 28, 2008 | 08:30 PM
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I thought it was a great idea when I bought my Volks, but I did have a rubbing issues. Maybe a bubble wrap and strofoam sheet would help out.
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Old May 28, 2008 | 09:16 PM
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ive had 4 wheels shipped to me and 2 wheels ive shipped out via the Disc/ shrink wrap method with no problems but i use UPS
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Old May 29, 2008 | 08:47 AM
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Thanks for the responses, anyone else?
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Old May 29, 2008 | 03:17 PM
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I've done it via DHL w/o issue. Nothing but doubled up carboard on each face and a ton of syran wrap. As long as you're not dealing with some crazy stretched tires the rubber itself protects the wheel. Just think about someone dropping it off a table and compare that to a pothole at 70 mph. I'm betting 70 mph is more severe.
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Old May 29, 2008 | 07:10 PM
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Oh you meant one wheel. I had two wheels sandwiching eachother and cardboard in the middle. That should be fine.
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Old May 29, 2008 | 10:47 PM
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i have recied wheels no tires packaged like this not problem at all. but then again it was shipped via ups. i have herd many complaints about a number of things being shipped by fedex. usf holland/reddaway sucks as well
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Old May 30, 2008 | 09:34 AM
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Thanks for the additional responses. Any others?
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Old May 30, 2008 | 10:02 AM
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Originally Posted by accel junky
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Never shipped any, but purchased several times from Tire Rack with tires mounted, and that's the way they are always shipped.
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Old May 30, 2008 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by accel junky
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I think I remember the post (or a similar situation) about this problem. Weren't the faces concave like 5zigen fnro1c's? The concave spokes that stuck out got damaged. I'd think a layer of styrofoam would help in shipping them. but just sticking cardboard on the concave part of the rim wouldn't keep them from getting damaged, they'd just poke through the cardboard when they get man-handled by fedex.
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Old May 30, 2008 | 12:48 PM
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I also always face the wheels toward each other, just for that reason. Not sure how yours were shipped.
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Old Jun 24, 2008 | 05:29 PM
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This is unbelievable, FedEx actually owned up. Moral of the story, ALWAYS INSURE, ALWAYS READ THE FINE PRINT, DO NOT GIVE UP ON UNJUST SHIPPING CLAIM DENIAL:

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Old Jun 29, 2008 | 04:59 PM
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Wow, that's unbelievable. Congrats! Fedex has screwed me quite a few times on claims, it's nice to see someone get justice after their incompetence causes damage.....
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Old Jun 29, 2008 | 08:25 PM
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Go all out on the packaging. Most people at shipping warehouses get paid very little, have shitty working conditions and hate their job. Anything remotely heavy gets thrown down, there could also be heavy **** stacked on top of your package. They are literally thrown into the truck in no order whatsoever. I work for a DHL warehouse and it sucks.
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Old Jun 29, 2008 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
Wow, that's unbelievable. Congrats! Fedex has screwed me quite a few times on claims, it's nice to see someone get justice after their incompetence causes damage.....
i've worked at UPS before. i wouldn't call it incompetence so much as unavoidability

the bottomline is shipping has to be cheap. so they have to cram maximum packages into minimum space. additionally they maximize flow through the warehouse. i don't know how dhl was, but ups had a very orderly system for building walls of packages that maximized how many could be crammed into a single truck. but yes, your package could easily be at the bottom of a huge wall of packages. the weight does add up.

at UPS you were grabbing, checking scanning and loading a package that came off (roughly) a conveyer belt all within about 3 - 5 seconds. the average loader did like 2000-3000 packages per day, and thats only a single 3-4 hour shift. the flow doesn't come evenly either. it comes in waves. when that conveyer gets backed up and your supervisor is screaming at you to clear the belt, there's no way anything is going to be treated nicely and delicately.

the system is setup so there is no time to handle anything with much care.

in other words, when in doubt, go all ******* out on the packaging. its 99% of package survivability.
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Old Jul 5, 2008 | 04:20 AM
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I always pack all packages like if they were going into a war zone. I have a friend who works at FedEx and he always tells me how people throw boxes around exactly like this: http://youtube.com/watch?v=4V64r3q4FuA

I've also seen UPS drivers throwing boxes into their trucks like footballs.
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Old Jul 6, 2008 | 01:13 PM
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Congratulations!!


Sticking it to the MAN These companies/corporations need people like you to make them accountable or else this world is doomed to be like George Orwells 1984.


Shipping companies are so notorious it is unbelievable, every person has a bad experience.



^^ To respond to the above post. I used to work at my local airport, i see all the cargo guys and pilots loading/unloading their planes.... it is a JOKE!!! Ive seen a pilot throw a big package over the wing of his Navajo and HIT his left propeller HARD, then both him and his copilot laughed about it and continued being clowns. I could not beleive it.


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Old Jul 7, 2008 | 12:32 PM
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Glad you got your money. I've had thousands of dollars in claims for BOTH UPS and Fedex. I have been paid every time... but it usually takes months.

My co workers won't let me have anything to do with shipping since my luck is so bad

I'm glad to see that others use the disk method as well.
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