I just had these tires installed on my M3 and let me tell you these are probebly the best street performance tire I have ever used and I have tried a ton. They stick the road like glue even in this 50 degree weather

Just took her for a spin down Gerogetown pike!

I'm gonna try these on the FD too!


Why doesn't tire rack carry the Toyo brand?

 

I've heard that the sidewall could be a little more stiff, but if they're anything like my old T1-Ss, then they must be a nice and sticky tire.

Try Online Tires. They have a special going for us Miata guys, and their regular prices aren't bad either.
http://ec-securehost.com/OnlineTires...OXES_T1-R.html

 

I've heard the same thing about the sidewalls.

I know from personal experience that the T1S was quite a bit lighter than my S03s.

Not sure why the tire rack doesnt carry toyo, perhaps some kind of distribution exclusion?

 

www.tiresavings.com has good prices

225/50ZR16 $115.00
245/45ZR16 $122.00

I just got 4 of the 245/45/16s T1rs from them, and I like the tire. Its very grippy.

 

How are you guys finding the grip as the tires wear? My T1-S's are 265/17 x 9.5 in the back (BBS RGRs), with maybe 1/4 to 3/16th of an inch left before I get to the wear bars, and I can still get wheelspin @ 5K rpm in 3rd (to4s w/bre @ 16 psi). Scared the hell out of me when the back end started drifting into the right lane @ 70 on the freeway....I was wondering if the t1rs are a bit more sticky......but the specs look about the same as the t1s.....

Beast

 

I have an E30 M3...so I don't have that much hp (212 wrhp), but not as sticky as a S03. If you are getting wheel spin w/ these I say either try a Michelin Pilot or a S03.

 

Best Prices on Toyo's www.edgeracing.com

 

I don't know about the T1R's, but T1S's seem to run a little narrower too, which could acount for "less grip" at a given size compared to say an S03. When I picked up my wheels/tires, I compared my rear 275/35/18 on 10" wheel T1S to a 275/35/18 S03 that was sitting on another customers 10" Fikse, and the difference was dramatic... the S03 was much squarer-shouldered and looked alot wider. My 255/35/18 front tire on 9" wheel doesn't look as wide as any 255 i've ever seen either.

I, however, have quite a bit of horsepower, and i've only felt light wheelspin on really cold days on 15 psi.

 

The one thing I really like about the Toyo's is the way the sidewall bead is slightly pronounced past the wheel lip on my RGRs, therefore no curb rash if I accidentally get too close to an edge when parking. It's saved my rims a couple of times. Do the Pilots or S03's have the same feature?

Don't get me wrong, I love the toyos - reasonable cost, good pretictable grip and ok longevity given the purpose of being a high-performance tire. Just wondering if there is even better out there.

ptrhahn - I wonder how much difference the extra half inch in the back makes. I have contemplated running a 10"x18 in the back with the 17's 8.5's up front, ala Corvette, GT40, and other cars in the past running different staggers....also wonder if there is a time when the Pettit flares and 12" tires are the way to go (310's, anyone? ). I figure that will come with a 20b........I do worry about front end push with that much difference in width front to back. I just know that if I had kept my foot in it in 3rd at 5K rpm my back end may have actually swapped if I wasn't careful. Not a good thing when your going 70+mph.

Beast

 

I've got 10's in back, and 9's in front. For my tire sizes, 255 and 275 35/18, I think they're perfect.

I don't know what sort of power you're making, but i'm probably making 360-370@ the wheels on 15 psi... enough to beat a 911TT X50, and there's no way i'm swapping ends in 3rd gear.

 

Sounds like good action satisfaction.

 

I'm right at 400 at the wheels at 16 lbs. It is cool outside (~ 50F) so that may contribute. I'm looking forward to the warm weather now that I have my boost perfectly dialed in. Since my fronts and rears are wearing pretty evenly I may switch to the t1-r next and see how it does.

Thanks for the dialog, all. Watch out for those new z06 C6's .... tough competition.

Beast

 

I wouldn't mind trying a set of these out, but I think I'm gonna go with the new Nitto NT01s