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Old 06-01-08, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by matty
drifting is the most rediculous motor sport (if u can call it a motor sport) that i have ever seen. just f'ing dumb.


drifting was invented so people would have something to do with show cars.



its just trying to look cool and have fun, its not a real motorsport.
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Originally Posted by unicorn_squad
drifting was invented so people would have something to do with show cars.


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dont think i see the logic in that. from what i have seen/read it seems to me alot of these cars get ruined. why would one ruin a show car?
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because its meant to be driven into the ground

cuz its cool
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Originally Posted by matty
dont think i see the logic in that. from what i have seen/read it seems to me alot of these cars get ruined. why would one ruin a show car?
why do people spend 10+ grand on a turbo setup knowing the motor will eventually pop, hell why do people beat on there cars period? the above post says it all.

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alright guys, enough with the drift hating, no place for that in this thread, besides what's been said already.

Let's stick to the topic at hand, though it's probably be settled already.

How do you fit 10's in the back without stretched tires and high camber angles anyway? If I could put 275's in the back of a high power turbo FC, I would.
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Originally Posted by matty
dont think i see the logic in that. from what i have seen/read it seems to me alot of these cars get ruined. why would one ruin a show car?
because its exciting. its like seeing a crash in NASCAR, but on a much smaller level.

there is no logic in it. and I was half joking anyway.
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Drifting gets more fun the more we ruin shitty cars like rx7s and **** of 40 year old guys who still sweat what some magazine wrote about their 10k Japanese coupe 15 years ago.
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Originally Posted by Roen
alright guys, enough with the drift hating, no place for that in this thread, besides what's been said already.

Let's stick to the topic at hand, though it's probably be settled already.

How do you fit 10's in the back without stretched tires and high camber angles anyway? If I could put 275's in the back of a high power turbo FC, I would.
Are you kidding? The FC has tons of room for tire. You just need to roll the fenders.

With rolled/pulled stock fenders my friend easily fits a 18x10 +12 with a 255. Bring that offset up and you will fit a 275 easy peasy.
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Really? I could definitely use some pics with 275's or higher on rolled fenders with camber no less than -1.5 degrees. (i.e. between 0 and -1.5 degrees)
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265/35/18 on a 18X9.5 35mm offset fit like a gloves on the back of my car. NO ROLLING, NO PULLING, NO CUTTING. A 275 is a mear 10mm more tire width which is less then half an inch.

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What camber are you running on the back?
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Just roll your fenders and make your car fit the wheels. All of these cars a 15+ years old, they dont need to be babied.
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A 17x10+35 will fit on the rear of an FC with 275 tires with just a fender roll. No crazy camber needed.
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Stock camber settings for now. Less then 1.5* I believe.

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Originally Posted by burtoncr
Just roll your fenders and make your car fit the wheels.
There's nothing wrong with rolling fenders, but wheels are meant to fit cars, not the other way around, period. That's why they sell wheels with different offsets, and not cars with different length A-arms.

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All of these cars a 15+ years old, they dont need to be babied.
This ethos is why so many RX7's are pieces of ****. Age shouldn't matter... I don't see people treating their '93 911's like garbage, and that's why most are still nice and worth money. And before you say, "well it's not a Porsche", note that the same holds true for similar-vintage Supras (which are still worth quite a bit because 90% of them aren't roached out pieces of ****). Also note that in the years shortly after they were released, you'd find used FD RX7's sold at high-end car dealerships right alongside Lotus's and Porsches in the back of Autoweek, etc.

However, once enough of them got into shitty condition and were cheap enough for the rice crowd to get ahold of them, it's been a steady downhill slide. If people would treat their cars with some respect for what they are and were intended to be, we'd all be better off.
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It's still a 15 year old car with 20 year old technology. You need to get over the car. It's a replaceable machine used to have fun, its not a child.
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Originally Posted by burtoncr
It's still a 15 year old car with 20 year old technology. You need to get over the car. It's a replaceable machine used to have fun, its not a child.
no matter what i do i cant stop from attacking people. i think i need to leave the forum!!!!!!!

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Actually, in many cases it's not... it was ahead of it's time and very much a match for modern machinery in some aspects. Others not of course. You'll find few cars that have the handling potential of an RX7 (provided you don't jack it up with wheels that don't fit, tiny tires, and ridiculous camber).

However, as Matty says, age shouldn't matter. It's not a disposable razor. Look at how vintage (we're talking 60's) sportscars are treated and how they are valued. The RX7 was in alot of ways a high water mark in design and engineering, and would still comand a great deal more respect as such from others if owners would treat them with more respect.

I use the hell out of my car, but that's different from making a mockery out of it.

Originally Posted by burtoncr
It's still a 15 year old car with 20 year old technology. You need to get over the car. It's a replaceable machine used to have fun, its not a child.
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I guess I dont have the "collector" mentality. I'm more driver/personal expression type car enthusiast.

As for technology, its not a bad thing that it has "old" technology. Most cars these days seem to have complicated themselves with every bit of new tech (cough, BMW) for no other reason that to make things complicated (or so it seems). It does however have a very good design (suspension wise).

I'd rather drive and mod my car to my personal tastes than park it in a garage and wait for it to gain value in 20 years.

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Bah, RX-7s are meant to be driven into the ground.
If you want to keep one as a collector car, Don't mod it and store it.

If you have a modified RX-7, it needs to be driven hard.
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you guys really blow.

he didnt say not to drive the thing. we all drag race, road race, etc....he is saying not to cut the thing up haphazzardly.
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Originally Posted by burtoncr
I guess I dont have the "collector" mentality. I'm more driver/personal expression type car enthusiast.

As for technology, its not a bad thing that it has "old" technology. Most cars these days seem to have complicated themselves with every bit of new tech (cough, BMW) for no other reason that to make things complicated (or so it seems). It does however have a very good design (suspension wise).

I'd rather drive and mod my car to my personal tastes than park it in a garage and wait for it to gain value in 20 years.
BMW's have good suspension design????? That's a shocker, last time I checked, M3's still have McPherson Struts in the front.

Can't find many cars with double wishbones these days besides:
FD
S2000
Vette
Old FF Hondas (Civic/CRX/Integra/Accord)
Supra
350Z
GT-R
G35/G37
Elise/Exige

Do any of the Euro luxury sports cars even have double wishbones?
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Originally Posted by Roen
BMW's have good suspension design????? That's a shocker, last time I checked, M3's still have McPherson Struts in the front.

Can't find many cars with double wishbones these days besides:
FD
S2000
Vette
Old FF Hondas (Civic/CRX/Integra/Accord)
Supra
350Z
GT-R
G35/G37
Elise/Exige

Do any of the Euro luxury sports cars even have double wishbones?
I meant the FD has good suspension design.
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Originally Posted by matty
you guys really blow.

he didnt say not to drive the thing. we all drag race, road race, etc....he is saying not to cut the thing up haphazzardly.
Rolling fenders correctly doesnt hurt the car at all.
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Peter, you've evolved into the voice of reason around here.

"Hey, my rx-7 is old and already trashed, so I'll just trash it more!"

That makes a lot of sense.....
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