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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 12:47 AM
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Please Help: 17" fitting to FD.

Hi guys,

First of all, I am sorry to post it again but I did not get a definite response / answer from my previous threads.

I have a pair of 17x9 +23mm ce28n and it is going on to my FD.

Here are the 2 questions I want a definite answer:
1) I need to know the best size and offset for the other matching pair.
2) Recommended tire size for F and R. (225/40/17?)

Thank you so much once again.

Hope to hear reply soon so I can place my order and have them installed!!

Eric.
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 08:10 AM
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17x9 +23mm is a pretty bad size to try and run on the FD. You could run it in the front with a 245/40/17 but you'll have to roll your fender quite a bit probably. The ideal tire size for a 17x9 would be a 255/35/17 but that won't fit up front. You could run it in the rear, but I don't really see a reason to.

The CE28N is offered in a 17x10 +45 which is perfect for the rear with a 275/35/17 so you could run that in the rear and try to squeeze the other set up front.

If you're not willing to roll the heck out of your fenders for the 245/40 up front, you could run a 225/45, but please don't do that! That's even skinnier than the stock rubber.

So:
17x9 +23, 245/40/17
17x10 +45, 275/35/17
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by stokedxiv
17x9 +23mm is a pretty bad size to try and run on the FD. You could run it in the front with a 245/40/17 but you'll have to roll your fender quite a bit probably. The ideal tire size for a 17x9 would be a 255/35/17 but that won't fit up front. You could run it in the rear, but I don't really see a reason to.
Hey, why isn't it a good idea to run 17x9 + 23 at the rear with 255/40/17?

And probably another pair of 17x9 with better offset (please suggest) with like 235/40/17 at the front?

Any other opinion ppl?
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 09:02 AM
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As already stated in your last thread. Without fender flares (or a fender pull), you'll have to use smaller (stretched) tires on those offsets. You'll most likely not fit anything larger than a 225 up front with those offsets. You might be able to get a 255 in the rear, but that is just something you'll have to try.
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 09:08 AM
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Originally Posted by Mahjik
As already stated in your last thread. Without fender flares (or a fender pull), you'll have to use smaller (stretched) tires on those offsets. You'll most likely not fit anything larger than a 225 up front with those offsets. You might be able to get a 255 in the rear, but that is just something you'll have to try.
Thanks for your reply Mahjik.

Well I only have 1 pair of 17x9 +23 so.. its all good if i can fit it with 255/40/17 in the rear.

Q: Whats ur recommendation for the matching pair wheel size, offset n tire size? assuming its for the front.

Or the other way around.. if i fit 17x9 +23 with 225/40/17 in the front, whats the matching pair for the rear?

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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 09:32 AM
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You may as well get a matching pair. It doesn't make sense at this point to get another pair which will have a "better" offset when you already have the +23's. Unless you put those +23's on the rear and try to find something around a +35 for the front.

BTW, I'm not saying a 255 will definitely work on the rear. But you have a better chance of it working there as it won't work in the front without some changes. You'll have to test it to see.
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 09:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Mahjik
You may as well get a matching pair. It doesn't make sense at this point to get another pair which will have a "better" offset when you already have the +23's. Unless you put those +23's on the rear and try to find something around a +35 for the front.

BTW, I'm not saying a 255 will definitely work on the rear. But you have a better chance of it working there as it won't work in the front without some changes. You'll have to test it to see.
Thank Mahjik.

Yup.. i know the +23 offset is not ideal- not like close to 45 or 50 offset recommended for FD..

Yeah i am going to use the less negative (+23) on the rear and yes +35 is the next offset up.

If i tell you i will try:
17x9 +35 with 255/40
17x9 +23 with 255/40
How does that sound to you?
I wish to try to keep the F and R tires the same so i could rotate them.
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 09:47 AM
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To make advice easier.. here are the wheel sizes n offsets available for ce28n.

17x8 33 38 44
17x8.5 25 30 40 47 50
17x9 15 22 23 35 40 54 63
17x9.5 15 22 28 35 40 47
17x10 15 45
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 10:07 AM
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Why not just sell the wheels you have and buy a complete set with correct offsets? You couldn't stand to lose too much money, you could even find a set of used wheels with correct offsets for cheap
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by efun007
I wish to try to keep the F and R tires the same so i could rotate them.
Tire size isn't going to matter if the offsets are different.
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Old Sep 15, 2007 | 12:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Mahjik
Tire size isn't going to matter if the offsets are different.
Which is why buying another set of 17x9 wheels isn't worth it. Roll you fenders and put your wheels on the front, and get those 17x10's for the rear
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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 05:32 AM
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17x9 +23
17x10 +45

or

17x9 +35
17x9 +23?

17x10 seems a bit too much for just a daily driver.. ??

I am more leaning towards 17x9 +35 F and +23 R with 255/40 all round.. is it really not as good?
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Old Sep 16, 2007 | 08:55 AM
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Originally Posted by efun007
I am more leaning towards 17x9 +35 F and +23 R with 255/40 all round.. is it really not as good?
I don't think you are going to fit 255's on the front with the +35. It will depend on how low your car is, but you can see my 255's on the front of my car with 17x9 +43:

http://mahjik.homestead.com/files/FD...tein_stech.jpg

Most likely, you'll need to use a 235 up front depending on your suspension.
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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 06:20 AM
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alrite..
17x9 +35 with 235 at the front or 225 in the very worst case.. and
17x9 +23 with 255 at the back hopefully..

i am using stock suspension. does urs rub at all on bumpy road? it looks so close to touching.

thanks mahjik..
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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 09:06 AM
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Originally Posted by efun007
does urs rub at all on bumpy road? it looks so close to touching.
And it is close! I can't get a finger in the gap at all. The front fenders are hammered flat and the suspension is pretty stiff so I don't have any rubbing issues.
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Originally Posted by stokedxiv
Which is why buying another set of 17x9 wheels isn't worth it. Roll you fenders and put your wheels on the front, and get those 17x10's for the rear
i agree with this 100%
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Old Sep 17, 2007 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by efun007
alrite..
17x9 +35 with 235 at the front or 225 in the very worst case.. and
17x9 +23 with 255 at the back hopefully..

i am using stock suspension. does urs rub at all on bumpy road? it looks so close to touching.

thanks mahjik..
Man you're seriously handicapping yourself! Why are you forcing these wheels on your car? You can't be that hard up for cash... Sell the wheels you have and get a set of 4 CORRECT fitting 17x9's all around with the same offsets, you'd be able to run a 255 on all four corners and even rotate them...
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Old Sep 20, 2007 | 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by stokedxiv
Man you're seriously handicapping yourself! Why are you forcing these wheels on your car? You can't be that hard up for cash... Sell the wheels you have and get a set of 4 CORRECT fitting 17x9's all around with the same offsets, you'd be able to run a 255 on all four corners and even rotate them...
Hey stokedxiv,

I think I have to agree with you. Do it right the first time eh?

Yeah... I think I will just sell them and get a set of proper 17" width correct width n offsets.

Is 17x9 + 45mm all around the most ideal I can do?

But hey, if you don't mind educating me a bit more... why is it that bad in your opinion fitting 17x9 +23 and 17x9 +32 on FD with 235 and 255? They are not very wide tires but they are wider than factory 225 and therefore I get bit more traction. My FD is my daily driver and I am not gonna take it to track so I don't really need big fat tires (but also not narrower than factory otherwise I will look really stupid).

Thanks hope to hear back from you.
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