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Old 10-20-05, 05:12 PM
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Need help on 19 inch rims for FDs!!!!

I'm hoping Rishie reads this since I've read all his other posts but I'm looking to install 19x8.5s in the front and 19x9.5s in the rear. Tire sizes for front and rear will be 255/35/19 and 285/30/19 respectively. I currently own a 1993 FD3S with racing beat lowering springs. What I wanna know is:

1) Will these numbers fit into my FD if I roll the fenders?
2) I want that deep dish look, so what will be the offset numbers for this application?
3) Can anyone else recommend better numbers for this application?

This will be a daily driver although it does have a lot of mods that's pushing around 340 horses.

I'm new to this forum so ANY HELP PLEASE! Thanks for your time guys!
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best size for deep dish look is going to be fabulous expand in 19x13.5 -72 rear, id suggest super chrome finish. front id say 18x10.5 -15
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Originally Posted by chmercer
best size for deep dish look is going to be fabulous expand in 19x13.5 -72 rear, id suggest super chrome finish. front id say 18x10.5 -15
Please don't post a bunch of BS.
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Originally Posted by basaltFD
I'm hoping Rishie reads this since I've read all his other posts but I'm looking to install 19x8.5s in the front and 19x9.5s in the rear. Tire sizes for front and rear will be 255/35/19 and 285/30/19 respectively. I currently own a 1993 FD3S with racing beat lowering springs. What I wanna know is:

1) Will these numbers fit into my FD if I roll the fenders?
2) I want that deep dish look, so what will be the offset numbers for this application?
3) Can anyone else recommend better numbers for this application?
I strongly recommend NOT running 19" wheels on a car with Racing Beat springs -- you will wear through the fender liners in about 5 miles.

Stick with 18s, with those rim widths you could run 245/35 18 up front, and 265/35 or 275/35 at the rear. Suitable offsets would be in the +40 to +50 range, the closer to +50 the better for fitment. It is almost impossible to get a wheel with a deep dish look to it on the FD, because of the offset range. Depending on the wheel model, you could end up with a wheel with a decently wide lip on it.
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Originally Posted by rynberg
I strongly recommend NOT running 19" wheels on a car with Racing Beat springs -- you will wear through the fender liners in about 5 miles.

Stick with 18s, with those rim widths you could run 245/35 18 up front, and 265/35 or 275/35 at the rear. Suitable offsets would be in the +40 to +50 range, the closer to +50 the better for fitment. It is almost impossible to get a wheel with a deep dish look to it on the FD, because of the offset range. Depending on the wheel model, you could end up with a wheel with a decently wide lip on it.
Thanks for the correct info Rynberg! But I was wondering...If I do get the fenders rolled (front and rear), even with the Racing Beat springs, will I still wear thru the fender liners?
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Originally Posted by basaltFD
Thanks for the correct info Rynberg! But I was wondering...If I do get the fenders rolled (front and rear), even with the Racing Beat springs, will I still wear thru the fender liners?
Rolling the fenders does nothing for the fender liner. Take his advice and run 18's. 19's are just to big for the FD, IMO.
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Sorry got here a day late. Been crazy this week.

Ok so just from a technical fitment standpoint, oh and I have wheels for the FD in stock in 19" that NOBODY HAS. hehe. We're doing sponsorships. I'll have to post pics of my new RX8 up here this weekend. It's so dope and fun to drive. I don't know why people complain about its power. I love this NA. I want renesis for my GTUs. ok rambles.

For one, that wheel fitment will not work properly with the FD. If you want to go 19's you can gain your lip but not your tire diameter.

You must stay at 235/35/19 and 265/30/19, rear can go wider if you must but no point. Then for offsets, if 8.5" front a +40 or up and if 9.0 or up a +45. For the rear you can go anywhere from a +40 9.5" to a +45 10".

Let me know what you're trying to acheive with this fitment. It surely isn't performance and therefore don't see any advantage to you gaining wider tires. For all intensive purposes i recommend you stay within proper tire diameters while possibly stretching the tires if needed to run lower offset wheels and gain LIPPAGE.

The wheels I have 19" in stock will fit the FD without problems. I highly recommend if running 19's that you get an aggressive *** bodykit or it will look GAY. For bodykit suggestions please feel free to ask when you're ready.

What wheels are you looking at, what are their specs?
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Sorry got here a day late. Been crazy this week.

Ok so just from a technical fitment standpoint, oh and I have wheels for the FD in stock in 19" that NOBODY HAS. hehe. We're doing sponsorships. I'll have to post pics of my new RX8 up here this weekend. It's so dope and fun to drive. I don't know why people complain about its power. I love this NA. I want renesis for my GTUs. ok rambles.

For one, that wheel fitment will not work properly with the FD. If you want to go 19's you can gain your lip but not your tire diameter.

You must stay at 235/35/19 and 265/30/19, rear can go wider if you must but no point. Then for offsets, if 8.5" front a +40 or up and if 9.0 or up a +45. For the rear you can go anywhere from a +40 9.5" to a +45 10".

Let me know what you're trying to acheive with this fitment. It surely isn't performance and therefore don't see any advantage to you gaining wider tires. For all intensive purposes i recommend you stay within proper tire diameters while possibly stretching the tires if needed to run lower offset wheels and gain LIPPAGE.

The wheels I have 19" in stock will fit the FD without problems. I highly recommend if running 19's that you get an aggressive *** bodykit or it will look GAY. For bodykit suggestions please feel free to ask when you're ready.

What wheels are you looking at, what are their specs?

Thanks for all the info!

I'm not going for performance, that's a fact...I'm just going for a lot of show and a little bit of go. The wheels I had in mind are the Ruff Racing 279s with a +35 offset. I've seen it on another FD and it looked really aggressive but what I was wondering was more the tire size rather than the rims itself. Fronts would be 19x8.5 and rears would be 19x9.5.

I am going to roll the fenders and try to get the wheels as flushed as possible since Pure Sports, down in Ramona, CA have done this in the past.

And per my discussion with Pure Sports, they think I can get away with 245/35/19 in the front and 275/30/19 in the rear without rubbing the inner linings or hitting the fender lip. As I stated before, I will have the Racing Beat springs on them which I want so I can have a lower/aggressive stance.

Do you think the numbers above can work? Thanks for all for help tho, really appreciate you taking the time out.
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The rear can be done in those sizes with the 275, the fronts however you will need to remove the fender liner completely.

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You can also do 245/30/19 or 255/30/19 in front. Bandaid thin sidewalls, but both are at or near stock diameter.
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The problem with the Racing Beat springs is that they lower the car without really increasing the spring rate. My HKS springs were 400 lbs up front (Racing Beat is ~300 lbs) and I still hit the fender liners up front on bigger dips running 235/40 18 tires. This diameter is as small as you can run with 19s...

If you are set on the 19s, I would avoid the Racing Beat springs.
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Guys, thanks for all the replies and all your help. I really needed all this info and it's pointing me to the right direction. I'll post up the pics once I'm done. But again, thanks for everything guys!
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Originally Posted by rynberg
The problem with the Racing Beat springs is that they lower the car without really increasing the spring rate. My HKS springs were 400 lbs up front (Racing Beat is ~300 lbs) and I still hit the fender liners up front on bigger dips running 235/40 18 tires. This diameter is as small as you can run with 19s...

If you are set on the 19s, I would avoid the Racing Beat springs.
Hey Rynberg,

Which springs would you recommend for this application? I still want a low aggressive stance to go along with the 19s and hold on to a soft ride.

Thanks!
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Keep this in mind, as your wheel diameter increases the car will need to be lowered more in order to look aesthetically sound. It's a ratio of "wheel gap" vs. tire sidewall height. You will usually want the "wheel gap" to be a third of your tire's sidewall.

So if you want to figure this out mathematically, look at your tire specs. Get the tire height in ", subtract the wheel diameter in ", that tells you combined width for both top and bottom sidewalls. Now you're only concerned with the top so to speak, so divide that in two.

i.e. 25" tall tire, minus 19" wheel. Leaves 6" of sidewall, divide by two that's 3" of sidewall on tire. 1/3 of that would be 1" of wheel gap. Now you can take your baseline measurements off the car to see how much it needs to be lowered. Keep in mind if you still have stock tires on there and are going to a taller tire you will need to consider the difference between the two when setting your baseline.

Hope you can follow that. If you go with standard shock and spring you'll probably have to get something like the RSR Race Spring to acheive the higher spring rate. The downside to these types of springs is that they won't lower as much. This is the dilemna. Your real considerable option would be coilovers.

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Are these the wheels?



What is your budget out of curiosity? Wheels only, no tires?

thanks, Rishie
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Originally Posted by ARD T2
Are these the wheels?

What is your budget out of curiosity? Wheels only, no tires?

thanks, Rishie

Yeah Rishie, Those are the exact rims. Thanks for the reply! I was looking at the Work meisters or VS-SS for a while but thought they were way too expensive, so I opted for the Ruffs. My budget for both wheel and tire is around $2000.

I already ordered the rims and they come in Thursday and I'm taking them down to Pure Sports to get them fitted with the Racing Beat springs I have on right now. Hopefully they will work out. If not, I'll probably have to get new springs or coilovers. The only problem, I heard, with coilovers is that they ride too harsh, plus my budget won't allow it anyway.

Thanks for all your help Rishie, I'll let you know how it turns out.
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Ah that's too bad. We're blowing out some Volks at cost til the end of this week, maybe early next week:

THese ones GTV in Mercury Silver: 19x8.5 +45 and 9.5 +49

$1700.00 plus shipping and sales tax if applicable.




THen I've got some light *** CE28N in 19x8.5 +43 and 9.5 +45

$2000.00 plus shipping and sales tax if applicable.

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Originally Posted by ARD T2
Ah that's too bad. We're blowing out some Volks at cost til the end of this week, maybe early next week:

THese ones GTV in Mercury Silver: 19x8.5 +45 and 9.5 +49

$1700.00 plus shipping and sales tax if applicable.

THen I've got some light *** CE28N in 19x8.5 +43 and 9.5 +45

$2000.00 plus shipping and sales tax if applicable.

Hey Rishie...are those for wheels and tires? And what type of tires come with them?

Also, have you heard anything about the Ruff Racing wheels? Any info would help. Thanks!

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No Bro. That's just for wheels. These wheels alone are well over $2500.00 for wheels only. They are forged Volk Racing Wheels from Japan.

Ruff Racing from the research i've done on EBAY, LOL!!! Looks like they are cheap Taiwan wheels. Probably Heavy as hell. I would have advised against them.

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Originally Posted by ARD T2
No Bro. That's just for wheels. These wheels alone are well over $2500.00 for wheels only. They are forged Volk Racing Wheels from Japan.

Ruff Racing from the research i've done on EBAY, LOL!!! Looks like they are cheap Taiwan wheels. Probably Heavy as hell. I would have advised against them.

Rishie
Yeah...I figured as much with the Ruffs but as I said before...I'm more show than go and when I save some more dough up, then I'll go for the Volks or Works.

Thanks anyway...I'll try to hit you up again when I get some more flow.
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Originally Posted by ARD T2
Ah that's too bad. We're blowing out some Volks at cost til the end of this week, maybe early next week:

.....

$2000.00 plus shipping and sales tax if applicable.
Now THAT'S a hot price. Same basic pricing applies to TE37 in G35 Coupe/350Z apps Rishie, or just what's in stock? A little more for 9.5/10.5?
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Somebody take these wheels.
These are the best prices I've seen so far.

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Unfortunately I can only offer these prices on the wheels we have sitting here. It's been sitting as dead stock for the past 6 months, we're willing to take a loss on them to get them out the door before end of october.

You know i'll take care of you guys, but pricing with mackin has changed since we had purchased these last year. I'll still get you guys a deal tho that's for sure.

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