Looking The best possible Braking Setup ever devised??
Looking The best possible Braking Setup ever devised??
Anyone interested in a purchasing the most revolutionary complete brake kit you will ever find?
If anyone went to SEMA last year or seen some ads for the “Brake Man” Brake kit, I am sure it turned a lot of heads. It has a very unique design already have many people asking where and how this type of breaking system came about. As weird as it may look, it has been tested and proven to be the most advance, effective and most unique braking system on the market today. I have been in contact with Brake Man since last years SEMA, and have been asking them to design a kit for the FD, since I truly believe the breaking on the late model RX-7 is not adequate enough for its performance, and could use some work. Brake Man develops complete breaking kits including, calipers, master cylinders, steel braided lines and ect... (the works and nothing but the best materials and compound….) They have over 25 years of experience in making top quality braking systems, which is how they came up with these new extreme designs, that are not only lighter (about 4lbs per rotor, pending for race or street, and type), create less brake fade, and offer outstanding bite, and more technology then any other brake kit available to date. There kits, have been track proven to out perform many major top brand braking systems anywhere, have won many awards and praise for their technological advancements, and now the only question remains is if the RX-7 community is interested and ready to have the best braking kit available for practically 50% off their retail price! ( this applies to those who act now and preorder) Since, they do not yet have a kit available for the 93-up RX-7s, they want to see if there is a market for it first, and if there is, then they will offer this amazing price for those who are interested and want the best full breaking system money can buy. All I am asking in this thread for now is to voice your opinion on if FD owners, who either autocross, rally race, canyon race, or just want superior braking are interested, and I will work out a deal with them to get these kits made for our cars. Now I’m sure you want to know exactly why I find there brakes better then anything out on the market, so here’s a little info on it, and I suggest visiting their site to find out more, which is loaded with useful knowledge even if you are not interested in purchasing one, but want to lean more about brake systems:
http://www.thebrakeman.com
If anyone went to SEMA last year or seen some ads for the “Brake Man” Brake kit, I am sure it turned a lot of heads. It has a very unique design already have many people asking where and how this type of breaking system came about. As weird as it may look, it has been tested and proven to be the most advance, effective and most unique braking system on the market today. I have been in contact with Brake Man since last years SEMA, and have been asking them to design a kit for the FD, since I truly believe the breaking on the late model RX-7 is not adequate enough for its performance, and could use some work. Brake Man develops complete breaking kits including, calipers, master cylinders, steel braided lines and ect... (the works and nothing but the best materials and compound….) They have over 25 years of experience in making top quality braking systems, which is how they came up with these new extreme designs, that are not only lighter (about 4lbs per rotor, pending for race or street, and type), create less brake fade, and offer outstanding bite, and more technology then any other brake kit available to date. There kits, have been track proven to out perform many major top brand braking systems anywhere, have won many awards and praise for their technological advancements, and now the only question remains is if the RX-7 community is interested and ready to have the best braking kit available for practically 50% off their retail price! ( this applies to those who act now and preorder) Since, they do not yet have a kit available for the 93-up RX-7s, they want to see if there is a market for it first, and if there is, then they will offer this amazing price for those who are interested and want the best full breaking system money can buy. All I am asking in this thread for now is to voice your opinion on if FD owners, who either autocross, rally race, canyon race, or just want superior braking are interested, and I will work out a deal with them to get these kits made for our cars. Now I’m sure you want to know exactly why I find there brakes better then anything out on the market, so here’s a little info on it, and I suggest visiting their site to find out more, which is loaded with useful knowledge even if you are not interested in purchasing one, but want to lean more about brake systems:
http://www.thebrakeman.com
Now for some information and pictures of their unique their products: (if the pictures do not show up, just go to the site, or copy and paste the url)
This is what a basic brake kit will look like:

Now Im sure your wondering about their designs…..
First we have the:
The ConvO.E.M. Rotors

The unique wave design was adapted from the success of our racing rotors. Removal of material from the rotor reduces rotating weight, which is 4 times the weight when the rotor is not moving. This reduction in weight helps increase performance, as well. The ConvO.E.M. brake rotor is also a direct replacement for any OEM vehicle. It uses a convoluted diameter design and is whip slotted then clear zinc dipped for appearance and protection. These rotors are slotted, not cross-drilled, as this will cause a cast rotor to crack prematurely. ConvO.E.M. rotors are an easy way to dress up any size wheel package.
Secondly is the:
The Revolution Rotor

The purpose of this rotor is to reduce the rotating mass while still maintaining its flatness. This rotor has been highly successful in replacing many heavier cast iron rotors with no loss of braking performance, yet will tolerate much more thermal energy than a cast aluminum rotor. In addition to its ability to dissipate more thermal energy, it is less expensive than its cast aluminum or titanium counterpart. Since the coefficient of friction is so similar to cast iron, the driver feels minimal difference in the performance. The success of this revolutionary steel rotor provides a wide variety of applications where they wouldn’t work before. Also, the low cost aspects of this rotor create a much larger market, especially to racers on low budgets.
Next we have the:
The Hurricane Rotor

This rotor is "state of the art technology" and extremely unique. It has been patented to protect this technology. The unique interior design dissipates heat three times faster than any rotor yet tested. Manufactured from laminated steel plates, it is extremely strong, and will not shatter as cast iron under extreme use, and will result in operating temperatures at 30-40% lower than a comparable cast iron rotor. This rotor has been designed for extreme use, such as on heavy cars, or for very long races. It is on the high end of the price scale, but will work well when nothing else will. We are still developing new and unique designs that incorporate excellent cooling with long life and lighter weight. You will be seeing and hearing much more about this rotor in the near future.
Now for some Caliper Information:
Tornado Series Calipers

Our Tornado Series calipers represent the most advanced design available today. Since the calipers are made from forged billet material, their rigidity and repeatability, especially at higher temperatures and harder use, cannot be matched. While they are more expensive than other calipers available, their superior performance will mean improved pad life, more trouble free performance, and far longer life for the caliper itself. Since these calipers are modular in design, they can be modified easily if you change rotor thickness, or if you need to increase or decrease brake torque. Also, since they can be used as a left side or right side caliper by simply changing the location of the inlet fitting and bleeder, you only need one spare instead of two. For any of you that wish, the calipers may be returned to us for a full factory rebuild at any time. The charge for this service is $10.00 (amazing!)
This is what a basic brake kit will look like:
Now Im sure your wondering about their designs…..
First we have the:
The ConvO.E.M. Rotors
The unique wave design was adapted from the success of our racing rotors. Removal of material from the rotor reduces rotating weight, which is 4 times the weight when the rotor is not moving. This reduction in weight helps increase performance, as well. The ConvO.E.M. brake rotor is also a direct replacement for any OEM vehicle. It uses a convoluted diameter design and is whip slotted then clear zinc dipped for appearance and protection. These rotors are slotted, not cross-drilled, as this will cause a cast rotor to crack prematurely. ConvO.E.M. rotors are an easy way to dress up any size wheel package.
Secondly is the:
The Revolution Rotor
The purpose of this rotor is to reduce the rotating mass while still maintaining its flatness. This rotor has been highly successful in replacing many heavier cast iron rotors with no loss of braking performance, yet will tolerate much more thermal energy than a cast aluminum rotor. In addition to its ability to dissipate more thermal energy, it is less expensive than its cast aluminum or titanium counterpart. Since the coefficient of friction is so similar to cast iron, the driver feels minimal difference in the performance. The success of this revolutionary steel rotor provides a wide variety of applications where they wouldn’t work before. Also, the low cost aspects of this rotor create a much larger market, especially to racers on low budgets.
Next we have the:
The Hurricane Rotor
This rotor is "state of the art technology" and extremely unique. It has been patented to protect this technology. The unique interior design dissipates heat three times faster than any rotor yet tested. Manufactured from laminated steel plates, it is extremely strong, and will not shatter as cast iron under extreme use, and will result in operating temperatures at 30-40% lower than a comparable cast iron rotor. This rotor has been designed for extreme use, such as on heavy cars, or for very long races. It is on the high end of the price scale, but will work well when nothing else will. We are still developing new and unique designs that incorporate excellent cooling with long life and lighter weight. You will be seeing and hearing much more about this rotor in the near future.
Now for some Caliper Information:
Tornado Series Calipers
Our Tornado Series calipers represent the most advanced design available today. Since the calipers are made from forged billet material, their rigidity and repeatability, especially at higher temperatures and harder use, cannot be matched. While they are more expensive than other calipers available, their superior performance will mean improved pad life, more trouble free performance, and far longer life for the caliper itself. Since these calipers are modular in design, they can be modified easily if you change rotor thickness, or if you need to increase or decrease brake torque. Also, since they can be used as a left side or right side caliper by simply changing the location of the inlet fitting and bleeder, you only need one spare instead of two. For any of you that wish, the calipers may be returned to us for a full factory rebuild at any time. The charge for this service is $10.00 (amazing!)
Choosing which brake kit set up for you, all depends on what you want to do with your car, and Break Man can also help you determine, what is best for you as well. I am merely bring this up to the community, since I really want to see these kits made for our cars, and if we can show them there is some serious interest in it, I am sure they will develop them, and give the first few people to purchase them great offers to test them out. Believe me, you will not be disappointed. So enough of my rambling and check out their site, and voice your opinions and interest here or email me at Trunksss4@earthlink.net or Brake Man direct for more information at brakeman@hotmail.com . Also when emailing Brake Man, reference it to Warren Gilliland and mention Marvin Leckuthai brought it to your attention (so he knows its for the FD), and we can all get a group buy or discount going for it. Once the interest is there, pricing can be arranged and I will give further information as to what developments will fallow. Let them or myself know what you would want in a brake kit and what you do not like as well, so they can design the best possible kit for our cars. Hope to get a lot of replies and input so we can get the ball rolling.
Thanks,
Marvin leckuthai
Trunksss4@earthlink.net
Or
Warren Gilliland
http://www.thebrakeman.com
Thanks,
Marvin leckuthai
Trunksss4@earthlink.net
Or
Warren Gilliland
http://www.thebrakeman.com
Last edited by Crashunit; Feb 28, 2003 at 07:53 AM.
Marvin,
I brought up this exact product awhile back. (Possibly in the lounge section or brake section). There were some mixed opinions (seemed like it was mostly negative).
Anyways, Good luck man. I would like to see this product compared to a comparable Brembo (or some other name brand) kit to see the results. I guess the design may be too "radical" for people to possibly accept that it may outperform certain tried and trusted designs. That would definitely help sway the opinions of some people.
Does The Brake Man have any "true" evidence?
I brought up this exact product awhile back. (Possibly in the lounge section or brake section). There were some mixed opinions (seemed like it was mostly negative).
Anyways, Good luck man. I would like to see this product compared to a comparable Brembo (or some other name brand) kit to see the results. I guess the design may be too "radical" for people to possibly accept that it may outperform certain tried and trusted designs. That would definitely help sway the opinions of some people.
Does The Brake Man have any "true" evidence?
I went to the website and briefly scanned through it.
Here is a question:
1) What material is the "Tornado series" caliper made from? They mention "billet material", but there is no mention of what exactly it is made from. Whether it is aluminum or some other metal.
2) While their "standard" rotor utilizes a convoluted design, their top of the line rotor ("The Hurricane")utilizes a standard circular design. The difference between a plain rotor and the "Hurricane" seems to be the enlarged venting "veins" throughout the entire side of the rotor. Those "veins" have enlarged fins which help dissappate heat. If the "ConvoO.E.M." rotor is so revolutionary, why isn't the convoluted design utilized w/ their top of the line rotor ("The Hurricane")?
3) Back to the calipers, are they fixed or sliding?
Here is a question:
1) What material is the "Tornado series" caliper made from? They mention "billet material", but there is no mention of what exactly it is made from. Whether it is aluminum or some other metal.
2) While their "standard" rotor utilizes a convoluted design, their top of the line rotor ("The Hurricane")utilizes a standard circular design. The difference between a plain rotor and the "Hurricane" seems to be the enlarged venting "veins" throughout the entire side of the rotor. Those "veins" have enlarged fins which help dissappate heat. If the "ConvoO.E.M." rotor is so revolutionary, why isn't the convoluted design utilized w/ their top of the line rotor ("The Hurricane")?
3) Back to the calipers, are they fixed or sliding?
Last edited by DomFD3S; Feb 28, 2003 at 09:05 AM.
Originally posted by DomFD3S
Marvin,
I brought up this exact product awhile back. (Possibly in the lounge section or brake section). There were some mixed opinions (seemed like it was mostly negative).
Anyways, Good luck man. I would like to see this product compared to a comparable Brembo (or some other name brand) kit to see the results. I guess the design may be too "radical" for people to possibly accept that it may outperform certain tried and trusted designs. That would definitely help sway the opinions of some people.
Does The Brake Man have any "true" evidence?
Marvin,
I brought up this exact product awhile back. (Possibly in the lounge section or brake section). There were some mixed opinions (seemed like it was mostly negative).
Anyways, Good luck man. I would like to see this product compared to a comparable Brembo (or some other name brand) kit to see the results. I guess the design may be too "radical" for people to possibly accept that it may outperform certain tried and trusted designs. That would definitely help sway the opinions of some people.
Does The Brake Man have any "true" evidence?
Looks like most of the argument is going on here:
https://www.rx7club.com/forum/showth...00#post1538000
and alot of your questions are answered by Warren himself. Most people who dont know anything about new products are quick to judge before even looking into it, which Im glad you did, so we are on the same page. I wouldnt have brought up something stupid, that I would never use on my car or didnt work. Some things are just too extreme for people to realize before it becomes the common trend or all other products are judged by
. Oh wellz. Then they get played out.....
Originally posted by DomFD3S
I went to the website and briefly scanned through it.
Here is a question:
1) What material is the "Tornado series" caliper made from? They mention "billet material", but there is no mention of what exactly it is made from. Whether it is aluminum or some other metal.
2) While their "standard" rotor utilizes a convoluted design, their top of the line rotor ("The Hurricane")utilizes a standard circular design. The difference between a plain rotor and the "Hurricane" seems to be the enlarged venting "veins" throughout the entire side of the rotor. Those "veins" have enlarged fins which help dissappate heat. If the "ConvoO.E.M." rotor is so revolutionary, why isn't the convoluted design utilized w/ their top of the line rotor ("The Hurricane")?
3) Back to the calipers, are they fixed or sliding?
I went to the website and briefly scanned through it.
Here is a question:
1) What material is the "Tornado series" caliper made from? They mention "billet material", but there is no mention of what exactly it is made from. Whether it is aluminum or some other metal.
2) While their "standard" rotor utilizes a convoluted design, their top of the line rotor ("The Hurricane")utilizes a standard circular design. The difference between a plain rotor and the "Hurricane" seems to be the enlarged venting "veins" throughout the entire side of the rotor. Those "veins" have enlarged fins which help dissappate heat. If the "ConvoO.E.M." rotor is so revolutionary, why isn't the convoluted design utilized w/ their top of the line rotor ("The Hurricane")?
3) Back to the calipers, are they fixed or sliding?
. I love new designs and ideas, since that is what usually breaks new ground and become popular before people even know it. So dont let those negitive comments deter you from finding out more. Everyone get critized for everything, so Im behind this product, and Im glad you seem to like them too.
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I'm keeping an open mind about their product.
I'm familiar w/ part of their history (their work w/ BART and the Disneyland cars), so obviously, they know their stuff. I would just like to see a performance comparison between another name brand like Brembo, Wilwood, etc.
Actually, I requested and have received their catalog a couple of months back.
I may do some "testing" w/ their product some time in the future.
I'm familiar w/ part of their history (their work w/ BART and the Disneyland cars), so obviously, they know their stuff. I would just like to see a performance comparison between another name brand like Brembo, Wilwood, etc.
Actually, I requested and have received their catalog a couple of months back.
I may do some "testing" w/ their product some time in the future.
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