How in tarnation do you install Superpro bushings in the stock toe link?
04-12-09, 10:41 PM
#26
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We're talking about the ones with the flanged ends, right? Pretty much just get an cut-off wheel and be verrrry careful and cut slits on each side of the flanged end, then pry it up and start prying back and forth till the metal gets weak and rips off. Then you'll be able to press them out.
Let me know when you do them, Juan.
Let me know when you do them, Juan.
Getting the new superpro toe link bushings IN is a tremendous pita. They're mushroomed on both sides and won't nicely press in.
04-13-09, 11:47 AM
#27
Rich,
I know you aren't going to want to hear it but I am pretty sure you can push those in with the palm of your hand! You make sure you don't have the metal pin in yet of course.
I found that most of the superpro bushings (and the smaller ones in particular) have enough spring to them that the issue is they "squish" and pop out the side way too easy. When using your palm against a flat surface you can feel the bushing as it tries to pop out the side, and adjust your hand's angle. this allows ya to get the some of the smaller ones in much easier and faster.
I've done ~3 sets of superpro bushings, and one of the nylon type material. The stiffer nylon ones are about a hundred times easier to install, but the ride is a bit too racecar for most.
I know you aren't going to want to hear it but I am pretty sure you can push those in with the palm of your hand! You make sure you don't have the metal pin in yet of course.
I found that most of the superpro bushings (and the smaller ones in particular) have enough spring to them that the issue is they "squish" and pop out the side way too easy. When using your palm against a flat surface you can feel the bushing as it tries to pop out the side, and adjust your hand's angle. this allows ya to get the some of the smaller ones in much easier and faster.
I've done ~3 sets of superpro bushings, and one of the nylon type material. The stiffer nylon ones are about a hundred times easier to install, but the ride is a bit too racecar for most.
04-14-09, 05:23 PM
#29
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Rich,
I know you aren't going to want to hear it but I am pretty sure you can push those in with the palm of your hand! You make sure you don't have the metal pin in yet of course.
I found that most of the superpro bushings (and the smaller ones in particular) have enough spring to them that the issue is they "squish" and pop out the side way too easy. When using your palm against a flat surface you can feel the bushing as it tries to pop out the side, and adjust your hand's angle. this allows ya to get the some of the smaller ones in much easier and faster.
I've done ~3 sets of superpro bushings, and one of the nylon type material. The stiffer nylon ones are about a hundred times easier to install, but the ride is a bit too racecar for most.
I know you aren't going to want to hear it but I am pretty sure you can push those in with the palm of your hand! You make sure you don't have the metal pin in yet of course.
I found that most of the superpro bushings (and the smaller ones in particular) have enough spring to them that the issue is they "squish" and pop out the side way too easy. When using your palm against a flat surface you can feel the bushing as it tries to pop out the side, and adjust your hand's angle. this allows ya to get the some of the smaller ones in much easier and faster.
I've done ~3 sets of superpro bushings, and one of the nylon type material. The stiffer nylon ones are about a hundred times easier to install, but the ride is a bit too racecar for most.
04-17-09, 08:28 PM
#30
Did you make sure and remove the thin walled metal sleeve that surrounded the stock bushings? I only ask because if you burned out the old ones it would remain, and make a much tighter fit than the bushings were designed for. In fact that would explain the high level of difficulty you experienced installing them.
Andrew - those were the ones I "modified" with my angle grinder so we could press out the old bushings. Then I pushed them in by hand.
Andrew - those were the ones I "modified" with my angle grinder so we could press out the old bushings. Then I pushed them in by hand.
04-22-09, 10:57 PM
#31
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Did you make sure and remove the thin walled metal sleeve that surrounded the stock bushings? I only ask because if you burned out the old ones it would remain, and make a much tighter fit than the bushings were designed for. In fact that would explain the high level of difficulty you experienced installing them.
05-01-09, 03:50 PM
#33
I did my toe links last night using the Superpro bushings. Cutting the stock bushing's lip in order to have something to press on was kind of a pain since my vice isnt bolted to anything. It was hard to hold down while hammering the lip of the bushing after cutting it. Doing this to both toe links took me 30-60 mins because of my crazy vice. After that, pressing the old bushings out was a piece of cake.
Now it was time to press the Superpro's in. After reading a few posts by different members, I was prepared to curse all night long and go chasing flying bushings across the room. On the first try, the bushing popped out and took off like the greased up deaf guy on Family Guy. I cleaned it up, greased it again and positioned it back in place on my press. This time, instead of using a socket to press the bushing in, I used a piece of steel that I had my buddy at a machine shop make me to press out some bushings. Its a solid cylinder piece about 1 1/2" tall. I started pressing in the bushing and observed it carefully to see how/why it wanted to pop out. I stopped right before it flew out and repositioned it on the press. Now I knew what the bushing was going to do. I put a little pressure on it with the press and then went into turbo mode pumping the press as fast as I could so the bushing didnt have time to react and run away. This fast pumping along with my special tool got it in in a few seconds. I did the same for the other 3 bushings that were left and was done with the toe links in about 10 minutes. The steel inserts were very easy to install as well.
I think the problem is that you guys may be using a socket to push the bushing in. I tried using a socket on the smaller bushing on the toe link and the bushing popped out just like you guys described. The socket doesnt distribute the force evenly across the whole bushing and it flexes then pops out. The tool I had machined is just a solid steel cylinder. I'll post pictures of it later today along with my setup when I go back to my place.
Now it was time to press the Superpro's in. After reading a few posts by different members, I was prepared to curse all night long and go chasing flying bushings across the room. On the first try, the bushing popped out and took off like the greased up deaf guy on Family Guy. I cleaned it up, greased it again and positioned it back in place on my press. This time, instead of using a socket to press the bushing in, I used a piece of steel that I had my buddy at a machine shop make me to press out some bushings. Its a solid cylinder piece about 1 1/2" tall. I started pressing in the bushing and observed it carefully to see how/why it wanted to pop out. I stopped right before it flew out and repositioned it on the press. Now I knew what the bushing was going to do. I put a little pressure on it with the press and then went into turbo mode pumping the press as fast as I could so the bushing didnt have time to react and run away. This fast pumping along with my special tool got it in in a few seconds. I did the same for the other 3 bushings that were left and was done with the toe links in about 10 minutes. The steel inserts were very easy to install as well.
I think the problem is that you guys may be using a socket to push the bushing in. I tried using a socket on the smaller bushing on the toe link and the bushing popped out just like you guys described. The socket doesnt distribute the force evenly across the whole bushing and it flexes then pops out. The tool I had machined is just a solid steel cylinder. I'll post pictures of it later today along with my setup when I go back to my place.
05-02-09, 04:18 AM
#34
Heres some pictures of the tools I used for the bushings....
Rear upper control arm:
These are the things I had machined to press out/in the bushings. One is 1.64" in diameter and the other is 1.56". These worked wonders on the toe links.
My 6 ton press with battle damage from a stubborn diff mount bushing
Closer look of the damage
This is all I used to do my bushings. Even with the press bent like that, I was still able to finish the job. This cheap press more than paid for itself already. Its done a few odd jobs, some FC bushings and now my FD. It was under $100 from Harbor Freight.
Rear upper control arm:
These are the things I had machined to press out/in the bushings. One is 1.64" in diameter and the other is 1.56". These worked wonders on the toe links.
My 6 ton press with battle damage from a stubborn diff mount bushing
Closer look of the damage
This is all I used to do my bushings. Even with the press bent like that, I was still able to finish the job. This cheap press more than paid for itself already. Its done a few odd jobs, some FC bushings and now my FD. It was under $100 from Harbor Freight.
03-16-13, 02:45 PM
#35
If the bush won’t press in, then the easiest alternative is to try ‘pulling’ the bush through. This is quite a low tech solution. A reasonably long bolt nut and 2 washers larger in diameter than the bush & the housing can be used to pull the bush into the housing using a couple of spanners.
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