So I just got back from having the rears (245's) put on... I had the fronts (225's) put on about 300 miles ago, so they are practically new as well.

After a short highway trip to from Pasadena to North Hollywood (about 15 miles), I treked up Mulholland drive - which names, not only a very strange David Lynch film, but a nice windy road from Hollywood to the 405 that is light on traffic, with lots of 180 degree hair pins and short S-curves. The P-Zeros stuck like stink on puppy poopy. I did not experience *any* understeer that couldn't be compensated for by lifting a little bit to bring the back end into place (granted, the rears are still new and not scrubbed in, so they may not have been gripping as well as they will in a week). I found that having 245's on the rear allowed me to get on the throttle sooner than I was able to with my 225's - you can lift the off the gas to point the nose in the correct direction, stomp on the gas pedal and go straight as an arrow out of the corner without worrying about breaking the back end loose from wheel spin.

I'm pleased . The P-Zeros do follow the grooves in the road quite a bit more than my previous tires, so a bit more attention is required, otherwise, they come highly recommended. I'll be heading to a track event on Nov, 9th & will write a follow-up on how the 225/245 mix works on the track. (I'm predicting understeer).

 

What tires did you have before? I choose Bridgestone S-03 Pole Positions for my FD, (stock size). They stick like "stink on puppy poop " when it's warm, but they stick like stepping on puppy poop when it gets colder (40 F).

 

I'm guessing you are using those tires on stock rims? I'm not sure of this but wouldn't the side wall be softer because of the wider tire therefore not too good for handling? if I'm wrong please correct me I like to know

David

 

The good news is that my set of P-Zeros have 12,000 miles on them, and they still have 5/32nds depth and stick very well. I ran them last December at a track event in 30F temps. The tires needed 10 minutes of hot track driving to build in any heat in them, but there was not enough to make any real stick. The only rubber compound that will stick in that kind of cold will be R-compound rain tires like BFG G-Force R1s, or autocross compound tires from Hoosier (A3S03s). The Bridgestone S-03s are pricey in my opinion, and you don't have the option to rotate-crosswise like with the P-Zeros,. The S-03s are directional, while the P-Zeros are asymmetric and NON directional. For $139 each (Tire Rack) for 225/50-16, you just won't find a better-performing z-rated tire for the money! The 245/45-16 P-Zero is a very wide 245, and its performance would be maximized mounted on 9.5-inch wide wheels!

 

I found that local tire shops are charging more for the P-Zero than the S-03. They sell them for more because some customers must think Pirelli's turn their rusty Accord into a Ferrari. :p

 

The Supersports ARE different then what you are talking about, correct?

My car came with the Supersports on it 225/245 and they suck ***. They also follow every groove in the road.

 

Oh yes, the P-Zero Asimmetricos are Pirelli's premium ultra high performance tires. They're so sticky that they can be shaved to 4/32nds tread depth and used as spec racing tires in Porsche club racing. The Supersports are an all season tire that favors long wear and looks over ultimate performance.