fonky

What should I get to have more steering angle for drifting on a FD.
I can't find a super angle kit for fd.

Thanks

ballinnmiami240sx

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I have also been searching today for the samething. I found that their is a GP sport super angle kit out there and their is also a SuperNow kit. How do you get these? hummmm that is the question...... when you find it let us know? I know mazdatrix sells their own super angle kit for the fc, but i could find anything for the FD.

Danny

eyecandy

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Super*Now no longer makes the Superangle kit for the FD, they only offer the outter tie rods. The GP-Sports and Mazdatrix kits are a knock offs of the Super*Now kits, besides both of them only have them available for the FC3S, SuperNow does offer them for wide range of vehicles, S-chassis, Supras, Corrolla, and so on.

There is a thread I started in the Group Buy section to gauge intertest on superangle inner tie rods, from the looks of it it may not happen, if you are intertested get your name on the list and spread the word.

https://www.rx7club.com/showthread.php?t=701394

If you have any questions feel free to let me know.

aznpoopy

i have a question

why can't you FD guys can't just go to home depot and slap a little washer between the rack and inner tie rod to get more steering angle? or does it fail to net the desired increase in angle?

eyecandy

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Two reasons, its unsafe and does not provide enough increase. If you were to use the "washer" method to maximize steering angle you greatly sacrifice the thread engagement of the tie rods which in turn cause the tie rods to strip out of the racks. The Miata guys had this problem so I develop tie rods that need no spacer with full threading built for maximum angle.

ballinnmiami240sx

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eyecandy...thanks for the link. I definetly want those GB or not. I'm building a car for the Usdrift,SCCA, And nasa events in virginia.

Is not an FD guy thing. Is a matter of being safe and knowing your equipment will last. I wouldnt want to push my car to its limits knowing I might have a cheap mod on my car that might sacrifies my steering or someones life.

aznpoopy

right, but to be fair, plenty of the japanese drift companies sell exactly that -
a small washer/spacer that spaces out the inner tie rod, changing the amount of steering angle available; and plenty of people use it in both local events and in competition.

i'd like to think the tie rod threaded ends are longer to compensate, but i know for a fact that at least teins are not (or maybe they do? been a while since i did that repair), and i'm guessing plenty of the others are not as well. luckily it doesn't seem to be an issue on our cars (assuming your name is indicative of what you drive...)

Wezzmo

i run JIC tie-rods to get extra locks.. these actually have extra width built into them for extra lock so you dont have to use spacers...

i plan to run spacers awell though...

i also plan on cutting the steering spindle on the hub (where the tierod end bolts up) to get more lock aswell..

ballinnmiami240sx

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Good point made, but if someone would sale a direct part to increase the streering angle by a lot and give you that piece of mind that the car will not break.............I'm purchasing that part!!!!

I do drive a 240vert in the summer, sc300 daily for work, and the new project is a 94 fd for track duties

eyecandy

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Yes many companies due, but you are limted of the angle increase by the threading available, again see my previous post. With the spacing built into the tie rods you can maximize the angle, have full thread engagement, and no worries about them stripping out. Besides the Drift teams either use a bolt on spacer like the Super*Now kits, or custom mahine the racks and tie rods. The steering is put thru its paces and should not be overlooked.

Uras/JIC does make some sets, but they are still conservative, more angle is available, besides the Uras/JIC are for off road use only, the tie rod boots cannot fit over the super-sized rods without hacking them up and defeating the purpose of a good seal, and they have a weak link were the outer tie rod threading meets the larger OD shaft.

aznpoopy

heydon't get me wrong. i got no qualms about people offering quality products! just getting some discussion going. i'd take a one piece inner tie rod with full thread engagement over a spacer ring anyday.

eyecandy

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Thats cool, I am always for a good discussion, besides I just like to inform people.

One more thing I forgot to add, the racks have a counterbore before the threads start which is typically around 6mm, so you are already handicaped for thread engagement, add the washers....even less.

Oun

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they dont make the inner tie rods for FD's because the same effect can be achieved by making the outer rods longer. thats basically what they said in the RX-7 HyperRev magazine...after i found a japanese guy to translate for me.

eyecandy

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You must of had a bad translator, the outer rods have been the same sicne they dropped the SAK. The angle is not gain with longer outer rods, thats a common misconception, a number of companies make that same claim, and even more people believe it. The longer rods allow you to run more toe out the angle is gained by increasing the rack travel.

Oun

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damn thats good to know. no wonder why i didnt see any inner kits for the FD in the catalogue. i put myself on the list for urs tho.