FC struts/shocks KYB vs tokico vs koni
04-17-04, 07:41 PM
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both the KYB and Tokicos are a direct replacement and will yield similar performance. The Koni's are not drop in for the front - modification is required, so I would stay away from those.
I say go with the KYB AGX's as they are adjustable, and can be had for less than 400 a set.
I say go with the KYB AGX's as they are adjustable, and can be had for less than 400 a set.
04-17-04, 10:59 PM
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cant go wrong with those konis. I havent had experience with tokico, but KYB just sucks. And if one blows out on the race track, and its under warranty, dont tell KYB you were racing, because apperenly racing voids the warrenty. also dont lower your car much cuz that voids the warranty too.
Problem with the kyb's are the high speed damping really blows. The low speed is ok, but once you hit some chop, my experience is the tires bouncing for a moment uncontroled.... low and high speed has nothing to do with vehical speed... its the speed of the piston in the shock.
from what i hear, the kyb's are ok for 'performance street drving' - what ever that is.... but for racing its not that great.
iv only heard good things about the koni's.
my freinds got them on his lowered 97' mustang cobra. He's the fastest guy at my auto x and won his class in the midwestern councle.
Problem with the kyb's are the high speed damping really blows. The low speed is ok, but once you hit some chop, my experience is the tires bouncing for a moment uncontroled.... low and high speed has nothing to do with vehical speed... its the speed of the piston in the shock.
from what i hear, the kyb's are ok for 'performance street drving' - what ever that is.... but for racing its not that great.
iv only heard good things about the koni's.
my freinds got them on his lowered 97' mustang cobra. He's the fastest guy at my auto x and won his class in the midwestern councle.
04-18-04, 12:01 AM
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Originally posted by OC_
cant go wrong with those konis. I havent had experience with tokico, but KYB just sucks. And if one blows out on the race track, and its under warranty, dont tell KYB you were racing, because apperenly racing voids the warrenty. also dont lower your car much cuz that voids the warranty too.
cant go wrong with those konis. I havent had experience with tokico, but KYB just sucks. And if one blows out on the race track, and its under warranty, dont tell KYB you were racing, because apperenly racing voids the warrenty. also dont lower your car much cuz that voids the warranty too.
At least Tokico gives you a "limited lifetime warranty".
I don't believe anyone else does?
Problem with the kyb's are the high speed damping really blows. The low speed is ok, but once you hit some chop, my experience is the tires bouncing for a moment uncontroled.... low and high speed has nothing to do with vehical speed... its the speed of the piston in the shock.
And you're trying to apply them to a OEM replacement "street performance" damper?
from what i hear, the kyb's are ok for 'performance street drving' - what ever that is.... but for racing its not that great.
iv only heard good things about the koni's.
my freinds got them on his lowered 97' mustang cobra. He's the fastest guy at my auto x and won his class in the midwestern councle.
iv only heard good things about the koni's.
my freinds got them on his lowered 97' mustang cobra. He's the fastest guy at my auto x and won his class in the midwestern councle.
The continuously variable damping adjustment can be a nightmare, but in capable hands, it's more power to you.
These Koni's CAN handle higher rate springs, and they make anything over 200 lb-in a lot nicer ride. My theory is that the compression rates are a lot higher than the other stuff out there, and this makes ride quality "softer", since the Koni is damping the spring compression a lot more.
Tokico Illuminas and KYB AGX's probably top out around 400# in front, and anything stiffer just oscillates them out of control. We're running 500# up front now, and the Koni in front has no trouble controlling them. We are close to the end of the adjustment, but I think it can go up to a 550# no problem - we are planning to run this in the near future.
Other than that, the install is a bit more involved in the front, since it's a bare strut insert, and up gotta gut the MacPherson body and keep the bottom portion for mounting.
-Ted
