Terbowetoo

Hey... I'm really into drifting, but im somewhat new to it, and I was wondering what kind of setups any of you may have found to work well... Thanks alot

1FooknTiteFD

to start, youmight want a new set of coilovers. TEIN used to have a drift suspension for FC (don't know if they still have it), maybe you should look into that. You also need to adjust your alignment and maybe should get a Limited slip as well. Go to www.battleversion.com they have some suspension components for your car

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iTrader: (22)

Or GP sports suspension which is built specific to drift as well. Allows for some serious negative camber up front. They as well as JIC are known for drift as well.

Tein, GP sports, and JIC can all be had in this setup. But you need to indicate what the functions of this vehicle are to really decide on the appropriate one.

Are you planning on running this on the street or just a drift events?

If this is your daily driver you may have to sacrifice some attributes and find the best common ground between the two. You'll definitely have to change your alignment settings from street to drift if the car is needed for both.

777rx777

Its all about the driver. You can be a great drifter in a stock suspension RX7. If you suck at driving, You are not going to drift any better if you spend a ton of money on coil overs...

1FooknTiteFD

This is true however a lot of drift cars like in those option videos or D1 or whatnot, have their cars specifically set up for drifting only (not daily driving, or anything else). That's why they are able to drift their cars with relative ease compared to other cars. Their cars are fully equipped with LSD's, suspension, crazy alignment settings and the whole 9 yards. Of course if you are drift king, then you will be able to drift any car even in stock form. I heard that there was a video of Orido drifting a stock Rav4, anyone seen it?

If you wanna do up a 2nd gen contact alex at www.battleversion.com, he won a lot of drift events before (in his 86) but has stuff for FC as well.

Drift safe

j9fd3s

iTrader: (3)

yes alex is an excellent driver

mike

rx7gslse

ok, so what exactly makes a good "drift suspension"

I'm assuming a very very light back with a high tendance to oversteer, but give us some details...

Stiff, soft, crazy camber, hard tires?

Jerk_Racer

Geez, some of you are lost. It's not the parts that make a car, it's the driver. You want a drift car? Put away the credit card and learn how to drive first. Nothing is more valuable than seattime. Then you'll know what you want to change out instead of just tossing money at what you hope will help. Different people like different setups. All those expensive bits help, but it's the skill of the driver that makes them look good. The best drifting happens on the streets, not D1 events. D1 events just make it easier for mass consumption. Don't be a follower and just buy stuff that is on the D1 cars because a driver did well. Get out there and practice.

Drift your car for a while and see if you still are into it. Especially after you wreck a few times, constantly replace tires, constant maintenance, ect. If you are breaking stuff, you are trying hard enough to push the envelope. Ohhh, didn't see that in the cool videos? Of course not. But if you stick with it then welcome aboard.

1FooknTiteFD

For those of you who don't know, drifting involves getting sideways before the apex of the turn and maintaining the same speed throughout the whole turn, that's a true 4 wheel drift. Going into the turn, pulling the e-brake, and letting the rear slide out is not drifting it's powersliding. Having said that, yes drifting does take great skill and also a lot of practice, however it's not something i would recommend trying on the street because you are risking putting others in danger if you don't have complete control over your car.

777rx777

Check my previous post.

Chronos

it's also not very practical for racing since you're destroying the tires

Takahashi keisuke

yeah i guess it ain't worth it to put u'r money on coilovers and other suspensions first u should practice different drifts and get used to it...u better get ready to replace tires every now and then and later u'll know if u'r still into drifting
http://www.geocities.com/go2initiald/main.html
u can go to the drift tech's section and learn how to do a couple of these drifts and practice it but its not recommended to start practicing in the street cause if u can't control u'r car u'll be puttin other people in danger

Jerk_Racer

I know that people will do this on the street. Not many chances to do it on a track. Even at autocross the safety stewards get on me about it. I stay clear of the cones and keep it from spinning and they still get uptight. Just stay away from people and residential areas when doing it. Industrial areas are good. Wide open and not many people to upset. Ask a security guard if you can practice. You might be surprised. I did it and a guard told me it'd be cool as long as I didn't hit anything. But I had to talk with him a bit to get the go ahead.

Go to http://www.driftsession.com/technique.htm for the techniques. That Initial D place blatently ripped that info from DriftSession. Same spelling errors and all. If you do start getting parts, work the suspension first and foremost. Adding power will hurt you when trying to develop your skills. Plus you'll have your hands full paying for parts for maintenance.

Chronos: nobody said anything about racing. Don't hijack this thread to turn it into another grip versus drift argument. It's been done before. Nothing is ever gained from those threads other than it usually polarizes people even more into their mind set that they started with. Nothing personal, but you are one of those lost ones I mentioned already. Drifting isn't for everybody. It's just for fun in a different way behind the wheel.

777rx777: you are so right.

go2initiald

Sorry to interrupt you guys, I am from Initial D World, I had the drift techniques section since December 5th, 2000, the website Drift Session is not up until November 1st, 2001. So yea I don't know who copied whom. But Jerk_Racer, before you made any judgement, please check it carefully first.

P.S. - I found all the drift techniques on the web, and put them in a section. I didn't write those. So there is no who copied who thing exists, but still, I was the one that put all these together, shouldn't I get at least a little credit?

I am sorry, just have to get it all out. I am out. later guys.


- Perry
go2id.net

David88vert

Looks like you took them from the old site for Drift Club ....

Jerk_Racer

Drift Club? Shoot, it's been ages since I thought about that place.

When I copied stuff in school, I didn't get credit for it.

go2initiald

Yea that's probably the case. but I really forgot where I got the techniques from, if you can kindly give out the URL to the old site of Drift Club, I will be very appreciated and give proper credits to them.

Sorry but this is totally off-topic.


- Perry
go2id.net

Takahashi keisuke

ummmmm was it by coincedince u read this post????

Jerk_Racer

Drift Club died a long time ago. It was a nice place when it got started but after a while it was swamped by kids with dumb questions. Not decent questions about setups or technique but ones that could be answered if they had the patience to do a little bit of searching. Too many how can I drift "insert lame-o car name here" and Initial D type of questions choked that site to death.


To get this thread back on track, I found my latest setup to work very well. It's the JIC FLT-A2. Very, very nice set of suspension. The old worn out stuff took me as far as I could go with it. Do your homework before you start ordering parts. Only you can say what you need to get. Just get lots of seat time before then. Without knowing the basics you'll never get your moneys worth from all the stuff you buy.

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iTrader: (22)

Awesome, another satisfied JIC user. Congrats on your recent mod.

rishie

Takahashi keisuke

yo what about the tien RA isn't that a good coilover???

Jerk_Racer

Ask some people that have used them. I haven't heard many complaints about them. It depends on what you want from a particular setup and what you want to spend. That's why there's more than one choice out there.

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iTrader: (22)

Yup. Depends on if you'll want to wear a kidney brace while driving on the streets of the US.

KenshinFC

go2initiald,
where do you get off coming onto these boards and claiming that you found all the drift techniques? Just because you found them and put them all on one page doesn't tell me much. To actually know drift techniques, you actually have to get out there and practice. Post techniques on webpages is just plain 'talk'.

I agree with everyone saying that its all about the driver. Modifying suspension HELPS create, hold, and complete the drift but its still possible to drift in stock form. Victor is right that drifting is a controlled slide started before the apex and maintaining speed and weight transfer of the car throughout the turn.

The best way is anyone wants to practice is to find a big open area to practice in. Get use to the feel and balance of your car's weight transfer. Just toss is back and forth and not concentrate on actually drifting. Drifting will come in time. I think the best suspension mod for pocket change is buying toe eliminators. They help a lot and are very cheap ($35-50).

Practice and be safe.

Kevin

1FooknTiteFD

Please dont' do it on the public parking lot. I have a friend who tried to practice at a parking lot in San Jose at 2AM one time and the cops saw him. They gave him a wreckless driving ticket which is 2 points on your driving record (and this was in a parking lot). All in all, it costed him over $2000 after it was done. If you want to practice go to a slalom on a racetrack. Thunderhill and buttonwillow have one among others.