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Old 01-07-11, 10:25 PM
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Hi Adam,

over the years I've helped hundreds of people on this forum, giving up a ton of my time to give informed advice on everything from turbo sizing to wheel/tire setup and engine internals. I'm glad you bumped a four month old thread to thump your chest like a real man. Rawr!

I stand by my earlier comments..... but to each their own. We each are entitled to our opinions, no matter how misguided or ignorant

Btw, now that you've got my attention your custom user test (about midgets giving head) is completely against forum rules, change it to something less offensive.

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wow a lot of help come from here..and fds are now selling for less then 240sx and civics now days so whats the big deal. closing the thread what a horrible comment. if you can find them for 90 please let me know.

and to the OP yes you can fit a 18x10 25 offset on a FD with a 245 or 255 tire..its been done..Also you own your car they don't..they might own a car that LOOKS like it but it is not. Do your own thing. Fd's are old and are not worth much anymore whats the point of buying over priced wheels??

more then half the people here on this forum have Knock off body kits, crappy fitting hoods, and fake headlights, yet they complain about wheels ..i've seen sport max wheels save a guy with a miata from falling off a cliff while we were running canyons.
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Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
I'm glad you bumped a four month old thread to thump your chest like a real man. Rawr!

I stand by my earlier comments..... but to each their own. We each are entitled to our opinions, no matter how misguided or ignorant

Btw, now that you've got my attention your custom user test (about midgets giving head) is completely against forum rules, change it to something less offensive.
well you gave out info that was wrong..and someone corrected it, so the 4 months shouldnt be a issue for a bump. Good info was giving out. No chest thumping just good doing. Also my midget thing has been there for 4 years and no one has ever said anything, but i changed it just for you cause i wouldn't wanna be kicked off or be "closed" on this forum. We all help each other here and that what i did.
so if anyone googles this they will know it can fit the wheels that is
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^^Sorry, but 18x10 +25 is NOT ideal FD fitment, and with the *correct* tire size, it doesn't fit. Go run a 285/30 on those wheels and see what happens.

Of course, now that FDs are so cheap, there's no need to mount quality wheels on them, so people may as well just slap whatever the hell they want on there
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Well, I don't think there is a "CORRECT" answer to this as 17 or 18 x 10 + 18 to a + 25 offset been done a few times on the rears of a stock fender FD with a roll or a mild pull with 255 or 265 tires. This is with roughly 2 degrees of negative camber (which is what is recommended anyway for a light RWD car for street/track duty use). Tire fitment really does depend on the size/profile and BRAND of the tires as well. Some run wider for similar sizes than others. This is somewhat the case with Yokos and Dunlops as to what I have seen. So a 255 Z1 Star spec could be comparable to say a 265 in a cheaper brand tire. If it has to be done right, quality equipment spec'd to the particular application is the way to go. If he isn't making over 450 horsepower, he definitely doesn't NEED 285s out back, and definitely not if he likes the car to rotate more at the limit.
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I think when camber settings (or tire size) become fitment tools, the "fitment" is bad.

That's fine, it's your car, but I'd like to see an end to all these "19x12 -15 Will it fit?" threads. No, it won't fit. You know this. What will fit on this car has been established for a decade. You can, however, use it if you're willing to do a whole bunch of stuff that'll make your car run like ***. If that's what you're willing to do, why bother asking? Just buy what you want to buy, and do what you need to do. Anything will "fit".

As far as buying shitty cheap wheels for your car, again, it's your car, and you have to do what you can afford to do. However, don't justify putting crap on one of the seminal performance cars of last two decades by saying they are "cheap and not worth much anymore". Firstly, I don't see what that has to do with anything, but second and more importantly, that's partially WHY they don't cost much or aren't "worth" much anymore... because people don't show them any respect and treat them like a piece of garbage.

You show me a 20+ year old car that still worth good money (and there are plenty), and I'll show you an ownership base that loves and respects them for what they are.

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Old 01-09-11, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by ptrhahn
I think when camber settings (or tire size) become fitment tools, the "fitment" is bad.

That's fine, it's your car, but I'd like to see an end to all these "19x12 -15 Will it fit?" threads. No, it won't fit. You know this. What will fit on this car has been established for a decade. You can, however, use it if you're willing to do a whole bunch of stuff that'll make your car run like ***. If that's what you're willing to do, why bother asking? Just buy what you want to buy, and do what you need to do. Anything will "fit".

As far as buying shitty cheap wheels for your car, again, it's your car, and you have to do what you can afford to do. However, don't justify putting crap on one of the seminal performance cars of last two decades by saying they are "cheap and not worth much anymore". Firstly, I don't see what that has to do with anything, but second and more importantly, that's partially WHY they don't cost much or aren't "worth" much anymore... because people don't show them any respect and treat them like a piece of garbage.

You show me a 20+ year old car that still worth good money (and there are plenty), and I'll show you an ownership base that loves and respects them for what they are.
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Originally Posted by Adam P
well you gave out info that was wrong..and someone corrected it, so the 4 months shouldnt be a issue for a bump. Good info was giving out. No chest thumping just good doing. Also my midget thing has been there for 4 years and no one has ever said anything, but i changed it just for you cause i wouldn't wanna be kicked off or be "closed" on this forum. We all help each other here and that what i did.
so if anyone googles this they will know it can fit the wheels that is
Things change like the desire to run LED talights or stretching tiny tires over wide rims with aggressive offsets etc.....

However in 10 years LEDs will still look like christmas tree lights to me and stretched tires with wide rims sticking out the fenders will still remind me of some low rider van or truck with no performance value or cosmetic appeal in my eyes at all just plain poor taste. Similar to wearing your belt line at your knees, I don't get it and never will.
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Originally Posted by GoodfellaFD3S
^^Sorry, but 18x10 +25 is NOT ideal FD fitment, and with the *correct* tire size, it doesn't fit.
Its does so quit being the fitment police
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no performance value or cosmetic appeal in my eyes at all just plain poor taste.
Well thats very one sided, and it can have perfomance value if used right.
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As far as buying shitty cheap wheels for your car, again, it's your car, and you have to do what you can afford to do. However, don't justify putting crap on one of the seminal performance cars of last two decades by saying they are "cheap and not worth much anymore".
but if they where 18x10 25 offset TE37s would you say the same thing? seems like brand is all that maters


So lets get to the bottom because im sure all you guys can keep fighting about this.

A Wheel is a Wheel , it turns and spins, some cost 5000 and some cost 1000, but at the end of the day its a wheel. brands are fads!!! its his car who cares? Whats the difference of someone buying 5000 dollar wheels then putting Doral tires on them compaired to someone buying stock wheels with M/T slicks? witht he wheel NOTHING! because its a wheel. Dont like his choice then dont look at his car. Go cry to someone else because i dont think anyone cares anymore.
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Originally Posted by Adam P

its his car who cares? Dont like his choice then dont look at his car. Go cry to someone else because i dont think anyone cares anymore.
Are you shitting me?!?!?! The guy made an entire thread asking for opinions on his choice of wheels and thats what he is getting. Sorry that they arnt super positive, but i think its pretty obvious what the consensus is.

Yes, an 18x10 +25 can be put on the car and driven even with stock fenders. Just because a 2.SLOW Liter VW jetta can do it, doesnt mean that it belongs on an FD. If your not driving your FD for the performance advantages that it has, then sure, go for it. But dont give the bullshit excuse of, "if you dont like it then dont look," when you post on a public forum asking for opinions.
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Old 01-10-11, 08:43 AM
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Ive never bought a set of aftermarket wheels and threads like this make it even more difficult to decide. I like the ADR wheels. I think they look good and the only thing really stopping me from buying a set is being certain what will fit the FD. I am leaning towards a 18" (or maybe even 19" ) set - would the magical offset number be the same even though the diameter changes? I'm thinking 8.5" in the front and 9.5" in the rear. Reading through the hundreds and hundreds of offset threads are a little confusing and asking straight up which offset to get will get one's ***** busted.
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Originally Posted by Adam P
but if they where 18x10 25 offset TE37s would you say the same thing? seems like brand is all that maters
Actually no. They could be HRE's for all I care. If you have to use the static settings of the car (i.e.: camber) to make your wheels fit, they don't fit. Camber is a tuning tool. They didn't put the adjustment there to fit your wheels. Sorry.

It has nothing to do with "brand"


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So lets get to the bottom because im sure all you guys can keep fighting about this.

A Wheel is a Wheel , it turns and spins, some cost 5000 and some cost 1000, but at the end of the day its a wheel. brands are fads!!! its his car who cares? Whats the difference of someone buying 5000 dollar wheels then putting Doral tires on them compaired to someone buying stock wheels with M/T slicks? witht he wheel NOTHING! because its a wheel. Dont like his choice then dont look at his car. Go cry to someone else because i dont think anyone cares anymore.
Actually, no again. A wheel is not a wheel. It has nothing to do with "brand" but for the fact that typically more expensive established brands make better wheels—strong, light, forged ones. That process costs money. The stock wheels were actually manufactured with such a process, and thus their size is really the issue, not the quality. Your analogy doesn't make sense.

this is a high-performance, highly-engineered car. If you want to maintain that aspect of it, you'll spend the money to do things RIGHT, and that means buying quality wheels/tires. Not all quality wheels are super expensive (SSR, CCW, Enkei), but not all cheap wheels are quality either.

It has nothing to do with "crying" about someone's choices. If you start a thread asking for "advice" or "opinions" be prepared to get them. I'm certainly not going to hand out **** advice to make people feel better.

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Old 01-10-11, 12:04 PM
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Adam P - it is obvious that you are enthusiastic about cars and such but your knowledge about the FD, wheels, tires, suspension, handling and engineering is basically 0. You probably don't know that until you start talking and hanging out with people that do have knowledge in that area (assuming it doesn't go over your head). Chill out and try and learn instead of telling people that do have that knowledge that they don't know what they are talking about...

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Adam P - it is obvious that you are enthusiastic about cars and such but your knowledge about the FD, wheels, tires, suspension, handling and engineering is basically 0. You probably don't know that until you start talking and hanging out with people that do have knowledge in that area (assuming it doesn't go over your head). Chill out and try and learn instead of telling people that do have that knowledge that they don't know what they are talking about...
I host track events at willow springs, Ive been on MTV drifting, my car was used for CSI Las Vegas, Ive pit crewed for Formula D drivers, I would be a licenced driver if i wasnt in medical school, and i was once one of the main members of the biggest corolla drift event in North America ohyeah im a UTI grad, I went there to learn not to get a job ...Maybe im not trying hard enough??
Im also the only person in the north america with a Sr powerd IS300. My post count does not reflexed who i am..I is low since I spent almost 2 years fighting a war in the middle east(but im sure i dont know much about that ether?!??!), But this thread isnt about me its about the wheels the OP was thinking about getting. then someone starting in on buy some real wheel bit..
The original post asked about wheels he posted not about any other wheels. He never said he was going to track maybe he made a mistake by asking you guys but hes on the same forum as you support him if you love your rx7. Quit being robots of the Brands. If sport max's where in you would want them too..
you guys are too funny now...
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Originally Posted by Adam P
Quit being robots of the Brands. If sport max's where in you would want them too..
you guys are too funny now...
You didn't read a thing. It's not about brands, what's "in", or about you, it's about FUNCTION. If you're a technical grad, then you should know the difference between forging and casting, and the effects of changes in static settings, offsets, tire sizes, etc.
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You didn't read a thing. It's not about brands, what's "in", or about you, it's about FUNCTION.
hes daily driving his car.Sportmax will function prefectly fine..You guys keep bring all this track info to this thread...he never said "Im going to a GRIP event which wheels should I buy?"
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Honestly i think the Work Meister's look really good on fd's......http://www.iputinwork.com/wp-content...ustom_01_l.jpg
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So a daily driver NEEDs aftermarket wheels? When did I miss this bulletin. Upgrading parts is a choice. Do it right or go home. Cars are a luxury, modification is a luxury. We aren't talking necessities. You bought a high performance car, you put high performance parts on it. You don't put shitty parts on a nice car. I believe someone with automotive common sense should know this. Quality will always be quality. Shitty parts go out of style real quick, almost like a cheap outfit.
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Originally Posted by Adam P
so it seems all that matters is the brand since it whats in style, seems like you are into trends

Not really. "Hella flush" is a "trend" and a "style". Lightweight, strong, forged wheels aren't... but only so many brands manufacture them, sop it's not about being in to brands for brands sake, it's about which brands make wheels that are a functional match for the car.
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A Wheel is a Wheel , it turns and spins, some cost 5000 and some cost 1000, but at the end of the day its a wheel. brands are fads!!!
Yup, you learned a lot about engineering.
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Originally Posted by Adam P
I host track events at willow springs, Ive been on MTV drifting, my car was used for CSI Las Vegas, Ive pit crewed for Formula D drivers, I would be a licenced driver if i wasnt in medical school, and i was once one of the main members of the biggest corolla drift event in North America ohyeah im a UTI grad, I went there to learn not to get a job ...Maybe im not trying hard enough??
Im also the only person in the north america with a Sr powerd IS300. My post count does not reflexed who i am..I is low since I spent almost 2 years fighting a war in the middle east(but im sure i dont know much about that ether?!??!), But this thread isnt about me its about the wheels the OP was thinking about getting. then someone starting in on buy some real wheel bit..
The original post asked about wheels he posted not about any other wheels. He never said he was going to track maybe he made a mistake by asking you guys but hes on the same forum as you support him if you love your rx7. Quit being robots of the Brands. If sport max's where in you would want them too..
you guys are too funny now...
Keep thumping your chest. The harder you thump the smarter you don't get.

I really don't car whether you setup an event a Willow Springs. The only thing that proves is that you can fill out paper work and spend time promoting an event. That means absolutely nothing about your technical competence or knowledge.

Who cares if you crewed for some drift team or that you did an engine swap. I can turn a wrench too. Doesn't mean I'm a race engineer.

You are the one hooked on your "brands". Your earlier post on the first page is comical "..i've seen sport max wheels save a guy with a miata from falling off a cliff while we were running canyons. "

How the hell will a set of sport max wheels save a guy in a Miata from falling off a cliff? Do you realize how idiotic that sentence is? the only thing that will save some idiot driving too fast on public roads is dumb luck.

All of the people commenting on this thread have more experience tracking and racing cars than you can possible have at your 20 something years of age. None of the people on this thread have fake body kits or whatever else you were ranting about. You are just too self absorbed and determined to prove your lack of knowledge that you can't get over the fact that you are wrong. Stating it repeatedly won't make your statements any more factual and will lead to this thread being closed to save us from your drivel.
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Wow! Folks get worked up over forged vs cast!

I look at wheels this way. If you hard core race the car.. get forged wheels. If you plan on keeping the car indefinitely because you love it, get the nice forged wheels. If you are on a budget and don't plan to keep the car but for a couple of years then do what you want.

I'm shopping myself and 2nd the idea to look for used forged. It takes some patience but getting a set of volks etc for 1500-2000 is the way to go imo. A new cheaply cast wheel typically cost 900ish for a set so why not fork out a bit more for the used forged?

Good luck and at the end of the day do what you want!! It's your car after all.
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Originally Posted by gracer7-rx7
Keep thumping your chest. The harder you thump the smarter you don't get.

I really don't car whether you setup an event a Willow Springs. The only thing that proves is that you can fill out paper work and spend time promoting an event. That means absolutely nothing about your technical competence or knowledge.

Who cares if you crewed for some drift team or that you did an engine swap. I can turn a wrench too. Doesn't mean I'm a race engineer.

You are the one hooked on your "brands". Your earlier post on the first page is comical "..i've seen sport max wheels save a guy with a miata from falling off a cliff while we were running canyons. "

How the hell will a set of sport max wheels save a guy in a Miata from falling off a cliff? Do you realize how idiotic that sentence is? the only thing that will save some idiot driving too fast on public roads is dumb luck.

All of the people commenting on this thread have more experience tracking and racing cars than you can possible have at your 20 something years of age. None of the people on this thread have fake body kits or whatever else you were ranting about. You are just too self absorbed and determined to prove your lack of knowledge that you can't get over the fact that you are wrong. Stating it repeatedly won't make your statements any more factual and will lead to this thread being closed to save us from your drivel.
Thanks for summing up my thoughts. I respect drifting, but I would hardly use that as a benchmark for anything other than proving my driving ability and enjoying the sport for what it is.
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wow ..i've seen sport max wheels save a guy with a miata from falling off a cliff while we were running canyons.

Oh man how so? Well, One time my meisters saved me from shipping in ice ;-)
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wow ..i've seen sport max wheels save a guy with a miata from falling off a cliff while we were running canyons.

Oh man how so? Well, One time my meisters saved me from slipping in ice ;-) it was a limited option from work usa..... For A 200 extra per wheel they come with the ability to control your car...like ai...
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