satoacs

im not stupid,this was a hypothetical situation and question. you dont need to keep coming back and giving me crap about it.

like i said this was meant as a hypothetical question. im not actually going to do this

rynberg

That wasn't your tone in the initial posts. People aren't usually asking questions about mounting brackets and such unless they are at least considering something. As far as hypothetically speaking, of course you could do it, all it takes is a skilled fabricator and time and money. Why even bother asking?

jupiter

Hmmm... I guess the air suspension system in the enzo is for the bling factor and has no added quality whatsoever.... There are a few high performance cars with some type of air suspension systems. satoacs if you check out couple of issues of RX-7 magazine you'll find couple of cars in there. But it's probably true that most of these aftermarket systems aren't performance related.

satoacs

i got that much. ill check out those magazines though

saxyman990

Where the heck do you get your information from?? The Enzo has electronically-controlled variable-valve dampers (with double wishbone suspension on both the front and rear). NOT air-bags.

It's not "probably true" that these aftermarket systems are only for the bling factor..... it IS true

-Rob

B_Rock

any reputable air suspension shop will be able to modify a stock strut assembly to work with an air cylinder setup for your application. since you live in "somewhere," maybe this shop is nearby

http://www.killerridez.com/

i hope this project wins you a lot of trophies, because you probably won't win any races. you could always build a bagged truck with a bagged trailer, and then just haul your rx-7 around that way. in my opinion, a badass FD on a badass trailer behind a badass truck will look cool parked in the parking lot...

satoacs

im not going to do this, why does everyone keep saying insulting things, this thread might as well be closed. the topic was discussed and its done.

jupiter

Did I not say air suspension system? wow, no need to get all excited. Air bags systems are not performance oriented but an air suspension system would make a nice setup. Everyone so quick to be negative. That's what give 3rd gen owners such a bad name.

rynberg

In what part of the Enzo suspension does "air suspension" come in? The Enzo is a double-wishbone with pushrod activated coil-overs. The valving of the shocks is changed electronically from within the cockpit. Now where does "air suspension" come in?

Kaotic Dan

There is a company developing a performance oriented air ride system for cars right now. The design allows 3 hieght/stiffness settings. Basically, the lower you go, the stiffer the effective spring rate and shock dampening.

With the highest/softest setting bieng equivelent to the stock suspension, and the lowest/stiffest reccomended for track use as it lowers the vehicle approximatly 50mm and effectively doubles the spring rate and uses the stiffest shock settings.

Apparently the results are very good, but right now its only available for the WRX and some BMW.

http://www.praxissystems.com/


(EDIT) I forgot to mention.... its expensive

geckospec

you could always strip the suspension off the enzo. the only down side is you would get flame for detroying an enzo. though personally i think its good use of an enzo.

locketine

how about that coilover kit from tein I believe that has in car controls for adjustments. I think that would look and be way cooler than air bags.

Who asks a question with absolutely no intent to use the information?

satoacs

which tein coilover kit?

i didnt say i had "absolutely no intent to use the information". i am going to use, thats why i asked. i asked the question to know what your opinion on it was and put that to memory. if a majority if not all of an rx7 forum's members disagree with the idea then i will know that for future reference when someone is talking about or a conversation gets to this topic.
thats the case with any question you ask...you put the information to memory for later use.

Skeltah

I think because the Enzo has the capability to raise and lower itself.. For driveways and such.

rynberg

I have never seen anything about that. The Lambo Diablo used to do that. In any case, it has nothing to do with an air suspension. There ain't no air bags in an Enzo's suspension....

prew

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I've thought about doin this many times to my car. Have a regular coilover on the car and have it slammed. Then have a bag or cyclinder attached in front as well to take the weight of the front end to get over bumpers and into driveways. I figure the weight of the car makes the strut sag a few inches all the time, just raising it that much would be enough in most cases.

I dont know about the Enzo. But as rynberg said some Lamborghini's including the Murcielago have the capability of raising the front end. I am not sure what they are using to do it though.

satoacs

ok this is new to me. lamborghinis use a suspension that can raise and lower the car?

SpeedKing

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Or or or, you can do the same via hydraulics, a là low rider.



And BTW, if you get flamed, think before you post, or better yet, don't. You *do* ask some pretty stupid *** questions often. As you know quite well, you've seen the business end of my keyboard many a time, and there's a lot of people here who don't think too highly of you. There's a reason why the little square next to your post count is red, ya?

satoacs

speedking: why did you quote me asking about the lamborghinis suspensions? it doesnt make sence to quote that post when your talking about hydraulics.

im not thinking about doing hydraulics, i just asked for your opinions on air bags...thats all. it isnt a stupid question becuase people do have bags on their 7s. its not like it hasnt been done before. i didnt say anything about hydraulics.
i dont ask stupid questions, i ask legitimate questions that can easily be answered, but instead you like to patronize me for not knowing as much as you. i may have missed a few things when i search for things, but you can easily post the link instead of type up a paragraph of crap. if you dont like me thats too bad. i could really careless if its red, it doesnt change anything except the color. call me a noob if you like. the fact is i just dont know as much as you, so dont hate me for it. teach me more.

if you have something against me, talk to the mods, or take some away from my reputation, or send me a message...i dont care. if you really hate me that much do as stated above or start another thread where everyone hates on me, if you want.

now back to what this thread is about. if you have a comment on it feel free to post.

Rx-7Addict

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lambos have nothing to do with air suspensions.

They do have an option that raises the front end a bit to help it clear speed bumps and driveways since the front end is sooo low. But it can only be engaged at low speeds.

and this idea of airbags...

booooooooooo

satoacs

thank you for clearinng that up. i wouldn't put air bags on my car, unless i went completely show

SpeedKing

iTrader: (4)

Sure it does. You asked about, "...a suspension that can raise and lower the car.", and hydraulics do the trick, don't they?

It *is* a stupid question, and aside from that, WHO has an air bag suspension in their 7? Name at least 3 people. Bet you can't.

Sure you do. You do it almost every time, and that's why your reputation icon is red.

Actually, to be honest with you, I don't. You PMed me several times about a month ago asking about wheel and tire sizing, and wasn't I gracious enough to reply to you each time?

If you would quit posting stupid questions, searched more instead of asking, stopped the lying and BSing, and actually went out and bought an FD instead of playing Gran Turismo with the forum, people wouldn't give you so much ****.

Oh, and BTW, happy new year.

weaklink

there was a video of a setup like this on the forums a while back. the car pulled more gs on the skidpad and faster lap times too. for oval track racing you could adjust sides on the fly. I can't find it though, and it's not important enough to look for.

satoacs

ok i guess they do.

ive heard of it, i dont know the peo[ple, but i have heard of it before.

thats not true. some people have taken cheap shots at me with the reputation. ive been rated down on simple posts that ive made. they arent even threads that ive started. if i post something someone has rated me down on it a lot. and they aren't things that actually matter, they are just comments that i made in a thread. some of them aren't even as bad as others in that thread. i wish i could tell who rated me on those, just so i could know why.

yes, you were kind enough to reply to them and im thankful for them becuase you cleared up everything for me. the people that i talked to must have not known what they were talking about because, like i said in those messages, they gave me the wrong information for those. thats why i was so confused about what everyone on here was posting.

like ive said before, i do search and i only start threads that i wasn't able to find the answers to. i still haven't been able to answer some of the questions in some threads that ive started. i do search... a lot... and thats how ive been able to complete my entire "research" part of the project so far. im not lying or bsing anyone. once the spring and summer starts i will be able to work again...just like i said in the messages i sent you. in case you dont remember; i told you that i work as an auto detailer, and if you know what that is which im pretty sure you do. there isnt much business in the winter time, therefor im not working right now....so i have no money. its just a matter of time before i start making money again and will be able to buy the 7 that ive been planning.

if youd like to see all the work that ive done for this (the "research" part of it that i keep talking about) then send me a message or something and ill show you what ive done. dont tell me im bsing you...im abot half your age, im just trying to learn something.

oh and ive never even played Gran Turismo before. ive only seen the case

SpeedKing

iTrader: (4)

Oh, no? Here, you claim to have $10K for an audio system. You are a liar.

And in one of your PMs to me (since deleted), you told me that someone was going to pay you $250/day to turn wrenches for him. You're what, a high school kid w/ zero mechanical experience, and you really expect me to believe that you're going to get top dollar as a mechanic???

Oh please, I'm 27 years old. Are you really 13 and a half???