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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 03:14 AM
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LOWER offset= MORE CONCAVE.

LOWER offset= MORE LIP (if you have multipiece rims).

LOWER offset= MORE overfenders needed.
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 09:36 AM
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I definitely like the look of these rims
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 12:39 PM
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^Me too! I think these will be my new street tire setup. Does anybody have info on brake caliper clearance with these? The curvature of the spokes look like they should be big brake friendly. I have the'99 rz brakes and am thinking 18 x 9.5 +45 all around fwiw.
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Old Mar 10, 2007 | 02:57 PM
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^Me too! I think these will be my new street tire setup. Does anybody have info on brake caliper clearance with these? The curvature of the spokes look like they should be big brake friendly. I have the'99 rz brakes and am thinking 18 x 9.5 +45 all around fwiw.
RTS3GEN is using those with the Pettit Racing BBK. I'm not sure what sizes he is running but you could probably PM him and ask. He's using them for a track rim so they definitely take some abuse.
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Old Mar 11, 2007 | 05:04 AM
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turBRO240,
Since the outside of the wheel is pushed out further with lower offsets, that would mean it would need to be +25 or lower offsets. I'm not exactly sure on this, but I think even higher offsets will get the same effect though with a wide wheel from looking at these pix (could be different sizes pictured)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...0565100&rd=1,1

I just ordered a set of polished silver. 17x9 +35, 17x10 +25. I'm going to roll the fenders and run 235 and 255 series tires respectfully for a really conservative tire stretch. If need be, I'll run a little bit of camber. I can't wait to get them in. I didn't pay anywhere close to the ebay listing though
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Old Mar 11, 2007 | 08:54 PM
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Post pics

I'd love too see em' fit and see how they'll look if they do!
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 01:47 PM
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OK well the rims that I ordered finally came in today. 5Zigen sent the wrong offsets though, because they said they very strongly advise against the +25 offset for the 10" rear. They guarantee fitment on the +35, which they sent though. I kept insisting I wanted the +25, but then they said it was a 4-6 month wait on these! So I guess I'm stuck with the +35s. I'm really disappointed, since I was really wanting these specific offsets, but I guess there's not much I can do. I'm finding out how long 18x9.5 +22's will take though.
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 01:54 PM
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Well just heard back from 5zigen and the 18x9.5 +22 is special order only, and would take 2-3 months. So it looks like I'm stuck with the +35s.
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 05:41 PM
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It's a 17x10 +35 correct?

I believe that's the correct size and will fit according to the fd wheel fitment guide. Those are the ones i'm looking to get for my rears.

Edit: I looked again and the fitment guide says the outside rears would be -.13 with the +35 offsets and -.52 with the +25 offsets. Unless you have fender flares, that's a lot to roll the fender out compared to the +35.

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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 07:15 PM
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Yeah it did come up with negative numbers when I plugged the numbers in. I was probably going to run a 255 in the rear with a +25, so the tire would be stretched, and with a fender roll I don't think it would be a problem. Others have used even lower offsets on stock fenders and got them to fit, so I don't think getting them to fit is that big of a deal.

The reason that I really wanted the +25 though, is because Logan of Aspec told me that you need to have that offset or lower to get the concave face on the rim. I saw pictures of the +35, and it has a little concave look, but not like some that I've seen.
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 07:58 PM
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Others have used even lower offsets on stock fenders and got them to fit, so I don't think getting them to fit is that big of a deal.
Define "fit". Most of us don't consider a wheel face sticking 1/4" or more outside of the fender to "fit". But I guess some people prioritize form over function.
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Old Mar 28, 2007 | 08:12 PM
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Well the red one on page 2 has the 17x10 with the +35 offset and that one has a pretty concave look to me. And then you could run the proper size tires, i.e. 275/35's.
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 05:30 AM
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I am 99% sure that the concave design does not change with offset for the FNO1RC. I had 17x10 all around on my FC and the fronts were +12 and the rears were +25 yet there was no difference in how concave the spokes were. BUT there was a difference in weight because of the different offsets and the +12 offset weighed over 1.5 pounds more, no big deal for some but it can be of concern to others since the +25 wheel was just over 21 pounds and the +12 wheel was right at 23 pounds... compare that to a 17x9 that weighs excatly 17 pounds and that is a huge weight difference. (my guess is that the 17x10 +35 weighs just a hair under 20 pounds but I havent had the chance to weigh one without a tire)

otherwise, these wheels look so hot in silver or bronze, go with the 17x9 or 18x9.5 all around on an FD and barely stretch some nice tires over them and man it looks amazing.

and rynberg, do you think the advans on ReSuper7's FD were okay? (that just sold) those had "lower than normal" FD offsets, like +25 and +30 or something like that and I think his car looked just incredible. yes I know he could have fit more tire under the car if he used wider wheels with higher offsets, but the tire width on his car is plenty for street use and most likely, the stance was wide enough to improve handling compared to tucking them in a half inch on each corner.

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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 07:55 AM
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and rynberg, do you think the advans on ReSuper7's FD were okay? (that just sold) those had "lower than normal" FD offsets, like +25 and +30 or something like that and I think his car looked just incredible. yes I know he could have fit more tire under the car if he used wider wheels with higher offsets, but the tire width on his car is plenty for street use and most likely, the stance was wide enough to improve handling compared to tucking them in a half inch on each corner.
The problem is he also stretched the tires to make it fit (i.e. running a 225 on a 9" and a 255 on a 10" wheel). Doing so loses sidewall strength which doesn't help at all in the handling department.

It all depends on the usage. For the street, I don't see a big deal. If the car/wheels will see AutoX or a road course, doing such things will severely cripple the capability of the car.
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 11:09 AM
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Originally Posted by owen is fat
and rynberg, do you think the advans on ReSuper7's FD were okay? (that just sold) those had "lower than normal" FD offsets, like +25 and +30 or something like that and I think his car looked just incredible.
Nope, I think it looks retarded.
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 02:37 PM
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owen is fat:

Is that right? You had +12 in the front and +25 in the rear? Anyways, I was told that you need to have a +25 offset or lower to have the concave look.

I don't feel the need to run anything bigger than 265's in the rear with decent tires. For 90% of people, the whole point of buying rims is for appearance, and obviously everyone has their own opinion when it comes to appearance. I may be giving up a little performance-wise with stretched tires, but for a mainly street driven car, but I guess that's the trade off. I feel it's going to look a hell of a lot better with wheel wells filled with rims.
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 02:57 PM
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Owen has a widebody FC, not a stock FD BTW.

Do my rear wheels look "sunken" in here? 18x9.5 +45 with 265/35


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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 03:15 PM
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Looks sweet to me just nice and tucked.
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 03:29 PM
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i wanna know what size/offset those are on that silver FD
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Old Apr 2, 2007 | 08:20 AM
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nah your wheels dont look sunken in but the angle of the 1st pic doesnt really tell the whole story, you shoulda moved farther to the right to be able to SEE the lip.

doesnt matter.

everyone does what they like anyhow and usually its for looks.

whooopdeeedooo.
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Old Apr 2, 2007 | 08:23 AM
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all of the 17x10 and all of the 18x9.5 fno1rc are concave spoke, the offset plays no role in this spoke design for this wheel.

a +45 and a +12 have the same face but the +12 has more material on the inside hub area to move the hub surface inward to achieve a +12, the more centered offset.
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Old Apr 2, 2007 | 01:28 PM
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Originally Posted by owen is fat
nah your wheels dont look sunken in but the angle of the 1st pic doesnt really tell the whole story, you shoulda moved farther to the right to be able to SEE the lip.

doesnt matter.

everyone does what they like anyhow and usually its for looks.

whooopdeeedooo.
I bought my wheels for the performance...I only posted pics to show that wheels/tires selected for performance could also look very good as well.
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Old Apr 2, 2007 | 03:15 PM
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oh yeah, that whooopdeedooo was to all the 'tards who buy wheels ONLY for looks and put no thought into the performance aspect...

no offense to you rynberg
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Old Apr 2, 2007 | 11:17 PM
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Originally Posted by jacobcartmill
i wanna know what size/offset those are on that silver FD
Sorry brother. I think the rears are 18x9.5+35 but the +45 offset would be better.
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Old Apr 3, 2007 | 12:50 PM
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My digital camera took a **** so I only have these camera phone pix.

17x9 +35
17x10 +35





Front


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They are pretty light. The rears weighed in at just under 19lbs. and the fronts slightly lighter.

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