Who runs aviation gas?
06-29-06, 12:00 PM
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Who runs aviation gas?
Well I just found out the next town over to me sells aviation fuel. Went by there and the guy told me its 102 unleaded and $4.50 a gallon. Just looking for some input, and your thoughts on running this fuel.....
06-29-06, 12:17 PM
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That doesnt sound like any aviation fuel i've heard of. The most common are 100LL (leaded), 80/87(leaded), and jet fuel(not useful).
I've run 100LL in car before, a tank at a time. Doesn't really affect anything negatively. Just leaves white/gray deposits instead of black in the tailpipe. Throttle response is affected(negatively) as well as fuel economy(for the better).
I wouldn't advise it if you have catalytic converters. However, O2 sensors work OK with it(theoretically shortened life, but i haven't experienced this yet).
I've run 100LL in car before, a tank at a time. Doesn't really affect anything negatively. Just leaves white/gray deposits instead of black in the tailpipe. Throttle response is affected(negatively) as well as fuel economy(for the better).
I wouldn't advise it if you have catalytic converters. However, O2 sensors work OK with it(theoretically shortened life, but i haven't experienced this yet).
06-29-06, 05:24 PM
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Where did you buy the fuel? I live in Boston
Originally Posted by NESpeed
Well I just got back from getting the fuel and the pump guy did tell me it was low lead 100 for $3.97. A/F dropped down a lot more than I thought it would.
06-29-06, 07:07 PM
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I use to run LL100 until i started running a wideband. It will realy shorten the life of the probe. Other than that, its pretty good fuel. Ralph at Groundzero says that its like "medical fuel", as it does'nt have any water, or other crap thrown into it. CJ
06-29-06, 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Jack
Where did you buy the fuel? I live in Boston
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Guys, as a pilot im educated in the properties of the fuel and y ou really should berinning alot more compression with that fuel if not an above averrage amount of boost...be carefull.
06-30-06, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by DaGOATCorollaGTS
Guys, as a pilot im educated in the properties of the fuel and y ou really should berinning alot more compression with that fuel if not an above averrage amount of boost...be carefull.
What would the trouble be??
06-30-06, 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by cewrx7r1
"What would the trouble be?"
Very poor grammer and spelling, maybe.
Very poor grammer and spelling, maybe.
Thanks for the english lesson...so would you care to answer my question??
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I have been running 100LL av. gas in my set-up for 7000 miles w/ no negative problems. Obviously no o2 sensors. Just smells funky.
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06-30-06, 04:56 PM
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Originally Posted by G's 3rd Gen
I have been running 100LL av. gas in my set-up for 7000 miles w/ no negative problems. Obviously no o2 sensors. Just smells funky.
07-01-06, 12:05 PM
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Originally Posted by DaGOATCorollaGTS
Guys, as a pilot im educated in the properties of the fuel and y ou really should berinning alot more compression with that fuel if not an above averrage amount of boost...be carefull.
07-01-06, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by NESpeed
Ya but I live WAY out in the boonies and there is only one shop near me in Plymouth that sells VP race fuels and the guy is ridiculous.
07-01-06, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by BUMBLEBEE7
They are all different colors.
Reference: ASTM D 2392
07-03-06, 06:17 PM
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been running 100LL for 4yrs. no problems, HEY Garrett, hows it going, had good fun on that 50mile run down I-95, fastest 20 mins. I evar seen, by the way must have done my engine good, runs smoother than ever. garrett i buy my fuel at Ormond Airport, credit card only!
07-03-06, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by DaGOATCorollaGTS
Guys, as a pilot im educated in the properties of the fuel and y ou really should berinning alot more compression with that fuel if not an above averrage amount of boost...be carefull.
The compression ratio on a typical lycoming O-360 is 8.5:1, it can run 100LL. That sounds pretty low to me.
Same with the color business, 100LL is dyed blue on purpose so people don't mix it up with other grades. Where is all this BS coming from?
What i've noticed running this fuel is the car idles a bit lower, and I think plug fouling could become a factor, though I have not experienced this yet.
07-04-06, 02:06 AM
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Man for 4.50 a gallon id pony the extra 50 cents and run Cam2 114, last I looked it was about 5 a gallon off the pump at the local gas stations. And its designed for motor vehicles, not planes. Obviously there are plenty of people using 100LL but from what I understand its low lead only relative to the old aviation formula (still much higher than auto race gas) and its designed for high altitude use making it less than ideal at sea level.
07-04-06, 02:43 AM
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Originally Posted by BUMBLEBEE7
I am an A&P mechanic I use 100ll in my 12aSP she loves it. Certain part of the country carries different form of the LL. They are all different colors.